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Wight
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Barad-Dur
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The same kind of idea has often come to my mind for their journey from Tom Bombadil's house to the Road.
Why didn't they just keep to the eastern edge of the Old Forest ? |
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Loremaster of Annúminas
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Of course, the real answer is that at the time Tolkien had no idea where the story was going, but since Bombadil and Willowman already existed he had ready-made plot to use.
There wasn't even any geography at the time, beyond what he had just invented for the Shire and Buckland. All he had was The Hobbit's vague given of a Road that eventually reached Rivendell. He never actually did get the two books to line up , even though he tried in LR 2d Ed (as Fonstad and CT discuss)- this may lie at the root of his latter-day insistence on drawing the map first!
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The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it. Last edited by William Cloud Hicklin; 01-20-2009 at 08:53 AM. |
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Odinic Wanderer
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That might be the answer to why Tolkien wrote it that way. . .but it does not answer why the hobbits chose the rute they did.
I see it like two very different discusions. |
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Regal Dwarven Shade
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold
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It doesn't even seem that any other idea besides plowing right through the wood was considered.
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Cryptic Aura
Join Date: May 2002
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In A Conspiracy Unmasked, Frodo explains that he wants his departure to remain secret for at least a few days, so he suggests going where none would expect a hobbit to go.
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In other words, they take the least likely route. Interestingly, no one mentions if the Old Forest would be malevolent to those who seek them.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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If they stay in the clearing it's quite conceivable
the Black Riders would break in and quickly overtake them (or come the other way going around and then south after going past the High Hedge) whereas that's impossible for horses in the Old Forest. And if you look at the maps by Strachey or Forstad (if the former is still in print) if you assume the Old Forest is navigable it's pretty much a covered, straight path to Bree. Btw, a possible plot hole is the Bucklanders apparently being totally unaware (unless I forget references in LOTR) of Tom Bombadil, especially since he must have been not infrequently in the eastern Shire rapping with Farmer Maggot since I can't see Maggot's wife letting him traipse off to some foreign place across the Brandywine.
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The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.' Last edited by Tuor in Gondolin; 04-23-2009 at 01:45 PM. |
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Gruesome Spectre
Join Date: Dec 2000
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I think it more likely Maggot visited him, especially since Merry noted that he had been known to enter the Forest at one time.
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