T-I-G LVI: Panic at the Prancing Pony

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Well, I'm sure the wraiths are happy now. Not only did they get to stand by (more or less - unless Legate is one) and watch Fea be lynched, and now have Legate and I as perfect scapegoats for the next lynch, but they have Frodo as well.

I assume that you knew the risks by attacking a person so agressivly as did. . .

Personaly I don't think it makes Legate look as the obvious scapegoat, he was more after Mac than Fea, but of course we have just learned that Mac is innocent.

Anyways I won't be around much today, it is my mothers birthday so I will be gone most of the day and I cannot stay up all night until deadline because I have to take care of my brother tomorrow.(he is sick)

I will make a post of more substans before I leave.

[Nerwen]

In answer to my own question: no, all Brinniel does is say that a would-be wraith Frodo would do best to play the part of a loyal but inconspicuous villager– basically to fly under the radar. And we don't know if Frodo took her advice anyway.

[Macalaure]

12 votes in 3 days and yet alive - and now I will probably be wraith-killed soon. What an end.

And I was so looking forward to feuding with Legate toDay.

When I read that Frodo was turned I was going to do the "told ya" thing about the importance of lynching a wraith early. Now that we do have two of them, it looks a lot better. We also have two Days to contemplate who the third original wraith is, and by the end of that time span, Fraitho has probably done something to incriminate himself.

Wait... the wraiths probably went after somebody who looked seerish. Maybe we can find a lead to Frodo by looking at who looked seerish yesterDay. Then again, with Brinn and Sally high on her list with little reason, who looked more seerish than our actual seer? Well, we'll see.

As a quasi-known innocent I should try to give a lot of input toDay. I'll be away for some time and I'm still sick, but I'll give my best.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

That wouldn't make sense. I think it'd be more important to kill the seer first and concentrate on finding Frodo only afterwards. Either the wolves didn't figure she was the seer or had a reason to leave her alive, which seems unlikely given that she was suspecting at least two of them.

That's what I thought as well. The thing that makes sense to me besides what you said is only that they would have spotted Frodo, been very certain of him, and decided to kill (wraithise) him before he can reveal to the village.

Originally Posted by Macalaure

12 votes in 3 days and yet alive - and now I will probably be wraith-killed soon. What an end.

Mac, you are still looking horribly sinister to me, had I not had the word that you are innocent, believe me, I would have suggested lynching you again. You are behaving horribly fishi-ly. However, after yesterDay, I am not that worried about it, as my suspicions seem to mislead me in this game completely

EDIT: x-ed with all Rikaes

[Rikae]

This is good news! Nice work, Lommy, and I think you did the right thing (sure, revealing after Brinn and Sally had a chance to talk a little would have been slightly better, but they've already done quite a bit of talking while thinking they were safe).
I thought the wraiths would have used the Durelin-wagon to their advantage, and so they did.
I hope Brinn's edgy posts of Day 1 were genuine, and not a wraithish plot, since that would be quite un-sporting. (I've been accused of that type of play, but I never actually did it. Wolves have feelings, too!)

Originally Posted by Lommy

I think Rune and Brinn's fight looks a bit too ugly for a staged wolf-on-wolf. (Or is it actually so ugly it can't be real? Hmmm...)

The latter possibility reminds me of the time Legate's attempt to distance himself from me as a fellow wolf led innocent Mac to send a PM scolding Legate for being mean to me.

Hm, well, one thing I just want to point out at the moment is that, although he's obviously no lynch target for the next couple Days, we shouldn't discount the possibility that Mac is indeed Ferny. I know I said he wasn't, but that was largely based on his failure to pick up my hints that I was a wraith who had been given his name. But on second thought, Mac doesn't tend to be one to look very hard for hints. Fact is, he did engage in Fernyish behavior and is worth keeping an eye on.

Both of us have to go run some errands this morning, so we won't be around for a while (plus, my semester's started, so I won't be participating as much as before from now on, anyway. Guess I'll lose the highest-post-count, then. Oh well.)

EDIT: X'd with Mac.

[Rikae]

I just remembered something else I wanted to say about Mac - the reason I think he's worth mentioning at all: he hasn't behaved like an ordo. He's been far more careful than he is as one (and yes, I think he's careful in spite of the celebrated "slips", which were more like hints. That politeness Legate mentioned, I guess.)

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Agan

Greenie's assuring she believes Lommy's claim for now looks a bit weird. I don't know, it's just the way she systematically brings up things; Lommy would be a bold wolf to do that, but then again... Today would be the perfect time to impersonate the seer, but then again... She could be Ferny, but then again... And in the end she kind of apologies for trying to make us feel worse about Lom

That post looked a bit fishy to me, too. Although Greenie as an earlier wolf companion to Sally and Brinn doesn't seem really likely, could she be Frodo?

That reminds me - I thought Agan Frodoish early on. Better take another look.

[Rikae]

Oh, jeez. I shouldn't have said what I did above. Now I've gone and messed up our chances of the wraiths making a mistake. Rikae = doof.

[Rikae]

Bah, well, as long as I'm talking about it anyway... jeez, he could have ignored my hints because he *didn't* send his own name to the wraiths after all. In fact, I can think of a reason why he wouldn't... oh, I'm so stupid... *headdesk*

[Brinniel]

I'm sorry Ms. Ferny, but I'm afraid your act is over. It was a clever move and I applaud you that, but I'm sure you didn't count on one of your so called "dreams" to be the seer.

Don't believe Lommy for a second. She is smart and deceptive. And she probably wanted to take the heat off some possible wraiths or draw out the real seer (which she has in fact done). Unfortunately for her and fortunately for us, Sally actually is a wraith. I dreamt of her last Night. I'm sure Lommy wasn't expecting that.

Night 1: Lommy
Night 2: Nogrod
Night 3: Rune
Night 4: Sally

I dreamt of Lommy as an ordo, which is why she cannot be a wraith. She is the informer, and a sneaky one at that.

If you don't believe me, I recommend you check my posts and you'll see that I am telling the truth. Also, if I actually were a wraith, do you really think I would dare to leave Lommy alive? After Fea's game, no. I admit I make mistakes, but I would never make the same mistake twice.

Anyway, it would be a waste of time to lynch the cobbler. Especially when we have a known wraith in our grasp. Frodo may have been turned, but at least we are one wraith down.

++Sally

I'd love to be of more help, but I'm afraid I cannot be here much until around 7ish pm EST as I have classes most of the day.

[satansaloser2005]

*sigh*

Alas, had the seer dreamt of me a different Night she may have found my intentions quite different.

Re: Rune.
YesterDay I legitimitely thought he could be evil, cobbler perhaps if not something else, but obviously toDay it would be unfair to comment on such matters.



In other news I have to head to class.

In even other news the duck tells me to say this: "By Elbereth and Luthien the Fair, you shall have neither the Ring nor me!"

Back around lunchtime. (Heh, I made a typo and accidentally said 'lynchtime' at first.)

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Bah, well, as long as I'm talking about it anyway... jeez, he could have ignored my hints because he *didn't* send his own name to the wraiths after all. In fact, I can think of a reason why he wouldn't... oh, I'm so stupid... *headdesk*

I didn't see anything. Nope, not me. You said nothing. This was an empty post, and not at all a completely obvious outing of yourself as Ferny. Thanks for that. Thanks a lot. Blast, it's so hard to find good help these days....

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

What else could she do? Claim her innocent and she'd fall with her anyway? The only way Sally would not have been doomed is if she had made a third "reveal". (I'd have loved that. )

edit: xed with Legazzone

Oh, but I did, lovely.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Rikae

That post looked a bit fishy to me, too. Although Greenie as an earlier wolf companion to Sally and Brinn doesn't seem really likely, could she be Frodo?

Yeah that's what occurred to me as well.

Anyway I've been looking at the voting but don't really know what I'm trying to achieve, apart from looking at the first day bandwagon where Brinn could have been lynched. I'm not nearly done yet but I have to leave now. So much for napping.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Rikae

I hope Brinn's edgy posts of Day 1 were genuine, and not a wraithish plot, since that would be quite un-sporting. (I've been accused of that type of play, but I never actually did it. Wolves have feelings, too!)

I hope so too.

The latter possibility reminds me of the time Legate's attempt to distance himself from me as a fellow wolf led innocent Mac to send a PM scolding Legate for being mean to me.

Oh, that was cute. Good old times...

Hm, well, one thing I just want to point out at the moment is that, although he's obviously no lynch target for the next couple Days, we shouldn't discount the possibility that Mac is indeed Ferny. I know I said he wasn't, but that was largely based on his failure to pick up my hints that I was a wraith who had been given his name. But on second thought, Mac doesn't tend to be one to look very hard for hints. Fact is, he did engage in Fernyish behavior and is worth keeping an eye on.

Originally Posted by Rikae

I just remembered something else I wanted to say about Mac - the reason I think he's worth mentioning at all: he hasn't behaved like an ordo. He's been far more careful than he is as one (and yes, I think he's careful in spite of the celebrated "slips", which were more like hints. That politeness Legate mentioned, I guess.)

Hmm, now that I think of it, a MacFerny (Scottish) is not as impossible (although, like I said, I am not trusting myself anymore). But, in either case, we should be careful, as when Fea wasn't, somebody is still Ferny - somebody around here, and for certain, somebody far more careful than an average Cobbler (although perhaps he was just lucky that there was Fea around to steal his or her fame At least in some people's eyes).

EDIT: x-ed since my last post

[Kitanna]

Lommy's time was up. She stayed awake anxiously for hours after Brinn's death. As night wore she began to wonder if maybe the ranger was watching over her. That had to be it. Dawn was fast approaching and Brinn's companions hadn't appeared.

Lommy sighed with relief. She'd live to see another day. However, as Lommy climbed into her bed the door to her home open. She didn't hear it because she was already asleep, dreaming pleasantly. The three remaining wraiths crept into Lommy's room. The innkeeper's disguise had come off and now Butterbur had to die.

~*~*~

Lommy was found in the morning with her eyes caught out and her skull cracked open. The wraiths had nailed her eyes to the wall. Her brain had been removed hastily and with no real care, bits of it scattered the floor. No one could locate the wayward brain. It couldn't have escaped during the attack.

The villagers searched the entire house. Finally they came across a pie sitting on the kitchen table. It was red and had an unpleasant oder emitting from it. The wraiths had put Lommy's brain into a pie as a means of exacting their revenge from Brinn's death.

The Prancing Pony had lost its innkeeper and the village had lost its seer.

Living
satansaloser2005
Lariren Shadow
Mirandir
Legate of Amon Lanc
Rikae
Aganzir
Beregond
Nerwen
Rune Son of Bjarne
Macalaure
Meneltarmacil
A Little Green

Dead
Kitanna – Made an example of Night 1 (moddess)
Gollum the Great – Eaten by hogs Day 1 (innocent)
Shastanis Althreduin – Forced to swallow a sword Night 2 (innocent)
Durelin – Hanged on Day 2 (innocent)
Nogrod – Disemboweled and hanged by own intestines Night 3 (innocent)
Feanor of the Peredhil – Hoed to death Day 3 (innocent)
Brinniel – Set on fire and turned into Mrs. Lovett Day 4 (wraith)
Thinlómien – Brain forcibly removed and made into a treat Night 5 (Butterbur)

[Kitanna]

Rikae's voice was hoarse from the screaming match with Sally. She was settling down for a nice cup of tea when something outside rustled. Forgetting the terror presented by the wraiths, Rikae found she was more afraid of Rune and his rock of silence.

She peaked out her front window to see if a disgruntled Rune was lurking in the shadows. He wasn't. She returned to her comfy chair. It was probably in her mind. Or hiding in the closet.

~*~*~

The next morning the village found Rikae still in her chair. However she was missing her skin. Her muscle was exposed and her organs were threatening to ooze out. Some already had. The wraiths had decided having her skin was too much of a hassle, so they relieved her of it.

But the left her skin behind as a gift to the village. It was nailed draped over her kitchen table as a semi-tablecloth. Too bad her blood ruined the wood finish.

Living
Lariren Shadow
Mirandir
Legate of Amon Lanc
Aganzir
Beregond
Nerwen
Rune Son of Bjarne
Macalaure
Meneltarmacil
A Little Green

Dead
Kitanna – Made an example of Night 1 (moddess)
Gollum the Great – Eaten by hogs Day 1 (innocent)
Shastanis Althreduin – Forced to swallow a sword Night 2 (innocent)
Durelin – Hanged on Day 2 (innocent)
Nogrod – Disemboweled and hanged by own intestines Night 3 (innocent)
Feanor of the Peredhil – Hoed to death Day 3 (innocent)
Brinniel – Set on fire and turned into Mrs. Lovett Day 4 (wraith)
Thinlómien – Brain forcibly removed and made into a treat Night 5 (Butterbur)
satansaloser2005 – Brained by Rune Day 5 (wraith)
Rikae – Skinned alive Night 6 (innocent)

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

That is disgusting, it reminds you of that Robbie Williams music video doesn't it? except she isn't moving. . . .

I don't understand why nobody has posted yet. . .have everybody been out in the nightlife saturday or what is the explanation here?

I will be checking what happens on the tread the next hours and comment on what is going on, but I have other stuff to do at the same time.

[Macalaure]

Aaalright. I'm here, so the wraiths obviously thought that the ranger would be doing a better job this time. After her stunt yesterDay, Rikae looked innocent enough to be a decent alternative, I suppose.

The silence on the thread is remarkable. I really, really hope I'll be able to contribute some more than I did the last two days.

[Aganzir]

Somehow I'm not surprised Mac is still alive. Did you forget to send your name to the wolves?

Originally Posted by Lari

Also would be an easy kill, especially if the wolves/wraiths were inexperienced.

What do you mean? That Mac would be an easy lynch? What does it have to do with the wraiths being inexperienced?

Originally Posted by Lari

Well, that's not to say that Rikae wouldn't have been an easy kill either, considering her banter with Sally yesterDay.

Well I don't know. She was generally considered quite innocent I think, and at least when I read through the day, the banter didn't make me suspect her more.

I think Rikae was the only one who found Legate somewhat suspicious. I wonder if a wolfish Legate could have killed her so as to avoid attention. Hmm I might want to take a look at Legate at some point today.
Also, if Mac is the cobbler, the wraiths might have thought the chances that he's not lynched are better if Rikae is dead.

Originally Posted by Lari

I don't really know what that means, maybe that he's more innocent than not because he thinks that Brinn is on "our side".

If he's a wolf, he was being very bold. I think that looks more like a cobblerish remark. Unfortunately we don't have too many days to check out possible cobblers as time is running out.

Legate's post is creepy. Why are you so sure Mac is not the cobbler? It looks like you are protecting him.

**

Okay yesterday.

Originally Posted by Lari

It was not that it was more her first post I didn't like and Nog's comment about her statement your vote that had me suspicious. Both of those things, and since both were mentioned I thought that was the best way to put it. And what Miri said.

Then it would have been better to repeat just those things. Otherwise one might expect you suspected her also of voting me, being the most sneaky you could find &c (I'm too lazy to check the other things she was suspected of)...

Originally Posted by Lari

And Sally left out Lommy in her list on Day 1. I wasn't the only one.

But you left out a wolf, which, according to my logic, means you couldn't be a wolf then as you wouldn't forget a fellow. Even if you had accidentally erased her name when copy-pasting.

Originally Posted by Rikae

Initial wishywashy reaction to Lommy vs. Brinn looks bad.

I trusted Lommy all along but found it amusing that Brinn's reveal looked more gifted-ish than hers.

Originally Posted by Mac

I'm very much puzzled by Aganzir's insisting that I'm evil.

Honestly Mac I'm sorry I find you suspicious every time! Guess if I like it myself. I hate obsessing about just a few people but I can't help it.
But Barney Ferny... Doesn't it sound good?

Originally Posted by Mac

The fact that she's laughing at the idea of me being Ferny. Why is that idea funny - unless you know better?

That's pretty far-fetched.

Originally Posted by Rikae

What was THAT???!!!

I interpreted it like there's still enough of us innocents... But it could also be interpreted the other way.

**

I've reached the point of being paranoid about everyone.

Where's Berry?
And where's Nerwen? I hope she's alright - I wouldn't like to be in Victoria right now.

[Meneltarmacil]

Well, good thing Rikae took the heat off the actual Ranger last night.

I'm actually glad i *hic* mished the *hic* banter lasht time. Shhuch thingsh make my head hurt.

I don't have a lot of time, sho I'll jusht vote now, retracting if *hic* necceshary.

++Mirandir

[Meneltarmacil]

I find myself agreeing that Greenie is likely the Ringbearer, due to the fact that she frequently asked about the role on Day 1 and later, in a list of suspects, she frequently mentions things like "No bells ring."

My comment earlier regarding Rikae taking the heat off the actual ranger was due to the fact that during her banter yesterday, she jokingly claimed to be the ranger. It's possible the wraiths attacked her thinking she might be serious.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I have taken a look at our friend Gandhi-buri-Gandhi. (Ha! Should that be Gandhi-Berry-Gandhi, after all???)

I am not sure if he would be so bold as a newbie Wolf to react to Brinn, of all people, in his first post of all:

Originally Posted by Beregond

I have a feeling Brinn could be something other than she seems - she was the first to really encourage proper discussion and then she left, almost to deflect suspicion and avoid notice all in one. I don't know about the rest of you, but I just don't know as she is who she says she is."

And Brinn on him at the very beginning:

Originally Posted by Beregond

I've lost count. Thank you! I feel terribly newbie-ish.

That does not look quite incriminating on first sight.

On Brinn and Sally, he is not very specific in his lists:

Originally Posted by Beregond

Brinn - tend to think she's innocent, but not wanting to underestimate
(...)
Sally, Fea, Lari, Mira - not making themselves suspicious

or

Originally Posted by Beregond

Brinn: the only thing about her is I didn't understand why she was so surprised when Fea (and myself) commented about Rikae. Besides this incident, I'm not sure where Brinn stands. I'm going to be watching her, but she's safe for now because I don't have much to go on.
(...)
Sally: didn't post enough today.

In general, nothing concrete against them. Now that might be a reason - a newbie Wolf trying not to say anything concrete about his packmates. But then, again, he is generally very... well, indecisive, or how to say that, about people.

Also, his going for Mac on the first two Days, and in fact, he stated, he wanted to go for him even on the third, look innocentish - as if a (newbie) innocent suspected a person. His vote for Fea troubles me a little, it could have been hiding something in the general frenzy. But as a Wolf, he really gained nothing by that - unless he was planning to save Mac, a possible Cobbler ally.

He also had some exchange with Brinn concerning Rikae's "Seer revelation", however, it was Brinn who started it, not him. A newbie Wolf would hardly have started that, but Brinn could - to sort of put in order (and "interrogate" him before somebody else does that, which might have been more dangerous) the newbie Wolf who made a mistake by concerning himself too much with Rikae's revealing joke.

My question would be - what was Brinniel (the known Wolf, let's bear in mind!) following by this? By initiating this talk, I mean? As it didn't seem like incriminating Beregond, or was it?

He was for lynching Brinn instead of Sally... it looks like he came to that via his own thinking process, on the run, so to say... (as he was first going for sally, but later he joined the cause for Brinn in its very beginning, before more people even started to support voting Brinn).

And:

Originally Posted by Beregond

This must be one of those clues Brinn indicates she left.

That could be an attempt from a Wolf to defend the Seerishness of a fellow Wolf, but I tend to doubt it. Wouldn't it be a bit weird and, well, dangerous? Not very comfortable for either of them...

All in all, I am inclined to see him as likely innocent, and very likely not like Frodo, either (Frodo would have been more careful, I believe. Also, generally thinking, I am not sure if the Wolves would have picked Beregond as a target, of all people, unless they thought he is Frodo - which he seemingly, again, isn't - or does not make that impression, I'd think).

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot. With voting Mac first, he was jumping on the existing suspicion, but then again, he was not alone who thought that, not at all... and at the time Durelin was being voted for, it would have been perhaps easier for a newbie Wolf to go with the flow and vote Durelin, yet he decided to vote for Mac - who was likewise innocent (as we now know as well). So, again, not sure if a Wolf would do that...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

So, now, if I recapitulate the stage in which I am now:

I think our Wolf (at least the one who wasn't Frodo at first) isn't:

Beregond
Rune
- for both, see my recent "excavations"

(though I think they are not even Frodo, at least those two. Bere the most.)

I think our Wolf rather isn't:
Nerwen - same as above
A Little Green - from before. She still seems innocentish to me.

I would be inclined to believe our Wolf isn't:
Lariren Shadow - After reading her posts... well, her style is consistent (doesn't look like Frodo coming here, not very openly, at least), and what Rikae says about her, when checking some of her posting for myself, for example this interaction with Brinn and Sally really looks un-wolfy.

I know our Wolf isn't:

Macalaure - he may be a Cobbler, but now that aside...

Oh my. And here it comes. That leaves me with:

Mirandir
Aganzir
Meneltarmacil

Great. Fantastic. Absolutely brilliant I am mainly referring to Aganzir there. Because I really can never discern whether she is not a Wolf. I never have any proofs. Of course not. And very often she just is. Eeeeek... Sally, Brinn... Agan? What kind of a village would that be... again?

As for Menel, think, like LG does as well, I am not voting him toDay. He is not around. I got mostly innocentish feeling from him this far, but again, with little posting, you get little. Mira... looked innocentish to me in some aspect, but... not really in any significant way. I have to go through her posts. She could also be a good Frodo, in my opinion.

[Kitanna]

The village was one less the next morning. Legate, the friendly town herring dealer was missing. Hoping that maybe he had overslept the village went to investigate.

Legate's home was a mess. Something large and hairy had been let in. Much to the horror of the village they found Greenie's bear, from her former bear taming career leashed in Legate's living room.

At one point in time Greenie and her bear, Fernado, had traveled across Middle-Earth, delighting spectators and performing daring acts. Now Fernado had Greenie's bloody shirt and a banana peel tied around his neck along with the leash. It seemed the wraiths had played on the bear's loyalty to Greenie and sent it after Legate to do their dirty work.

Fernado sat on the floor, picking at what was left of Legate. The wraiths had claimed another innocent villager.

Living
Lariren Shadow
Mirandir
Aganzir
Beregond
Nerwen
Rune Son of Bjarne
Macalaure
Meneltarmacil

Dead
Kitanna – Made an example of Night 1 (moddess)
Gollum the Great – Eaten by hogs Day 1 (innocent)
Shastanis Althreduin – Forced to swallow a sword Night 2 (innocent)
Durelin – Hanged on Day 2 (innocent)
Nogrod – Disemboweled and hanged by own intestines Night 3 (innocent)
Feanor of the Peredhil – Hoed to death Day 3 (innocent)
Brinniel – Set on fire and turned into Mrs. Lovett Day 4 (wraith)
Thinlómien – Brain forcibly removed and made into a treat Night 5 (Butterbur)
satansaloser2005 – Brained by Rune Day 5 (wraith)
Rikae – Skinned alive Night 6 (innocent)
A Little Green – Slipped on a banana peel Day 6 (innocent)
Legate of Amon Lanc – Eaten by a bear Night 7 (innocent)

[Nerwen]

Hey, where is everyone?

[Macalaure]

All Western or Central North Americans are dead, and all other godfearing people sleep after the deadline. Where are the Europeans by now, though? Who told them that school/work was more important than WW? Tsk...

Alright now... why am I still alive? I expected to either see myself dead toDay or maybe saved by the ranger. This is either a setup to have the village waste a lynch on me, or the wraiths really, really thought Legate was the ranger. Or Legate was really, really dangerous to them and his death was worth to keep a quasi-known innocent alive for some more.

Can't go any deeper now, but I'll be around later.