T-I-G LVI: Panic at the Prancing Pony

[Beregond]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Berry, why do you think that post is a clue? I see it quite another way - Brinn says she's convinced that Fea (who she never dreamed of) is evil.

I shouldn't have quoted the whole post - I meant only the last part:

"Of course we can't ignore the early voters (or the non-voters) either, as I'm sure there's at least one wraith among them. Really what I need to do is take a closer look at everyone, as I'm sure someone is slipping under my radar. But that'll have to wait until tomorrow as it is extremely late and I must sleep."

Which could have been a hint, or...not.

[Aganzir]

If she had dreamed of an early voter or a non-voter and found xem a wolf, she would have been more specific. If she wasn't specific, it isn't a hint.

However it's good that you quoted the whole post because there was quickly to be found at least one thing that makes me more positive she's lying. Although I remember Lommy wavering about the dreamed-of Fea too... But it was different.

[Beregond]

Actually I just meant the part about "taking a closer look at everyone" having to wait till "tomorrow" after "sleep".

Which is probably my overactive imagination. Or a hint left with good, or bad, intentions.

I don't know who to believe, really.

[Aganzir]

I believe Brinn spoke about tomorrow and sleep in RL, which I wouldn't regard as hints. Also, I don't think Brinn is the kind of player who would leave hints along the lines "Look! I am the seer!" instead of only hints to players she had dreamed of.

Originally Posted by Legate

It would make sense that Sally could not PM with the Wolves at all, therefore she saw her newly formed Wraith-star rise and fall. Most lucky, otherwise it might have helped the general confusion.

Oh yes that makes sense. I just somehow automatically assumed she'd be on the evil side also in spirit from the moment she was turned and would do everything she could to mislead us before her death.

edit: xed with Brinn & Kitanna. Okay thanks. So sally is apparently not the Ringbearer then...?

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Legate

It would be quite lucky (read: really improbable thing to happen) for Lommy to come up as a Seer, and by chance pick the real Seer among her suspects.

Improbable perhaps, but certainly not impossible. When Lommy revealed, she knew that someone would counter-reveal. If I looked remotely seerish to her, why not say she dreamt me as a wraith? It would be a smart thing to do actually; her reveal would look more believable and I would be easier to lynch.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Improbable perhaps, but certainly not impossible. When Lommy revealed, she knew that someone would counter-reveal. If I looked remotely seerish to her, why not say she dreamt me as a wraith? It would be a smart thing to do actually; her reveal would look more believable and I would be easier to lynch.

That would be possible, but it looks far more complicated than the simple version that you decided to go with retaliation. After Lommy's revelation, there was not much choice for you, if you are a Wolf.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

btw, I have no idea who is telling the truth. . .Lommy or Brinn, I did not understand why Legate found Brinn's defence so weak.

Simply. It would be quite lucky (read: really improbable thing to happen) for Lommy to come up as a Seer, and by chance pick the real Seer among her suspects. But on the other hand, what could have poor Brinnwolf done when the real Seer Lommy came out with revealing her? She could have either said "I am innocent, please real Seer, come out", or simply give it a shot herself. Which is very weak, but seems like Brinn decided to do that.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Because I just can't see why sally would reveal her exact role when she had a chance to confuse us and make us waste time by going to look for people whose behaviour has changed. Unless she still remembers her happy days as an ordinary Breelander and feels pity for us in spite of the Morgul blade that pierced her heart... Or then she's double-bluffing.

I thought about that too, at first. But then, after re-reading Sally's post, I ruled that out. It would have been helpful for the Wolves to lure the village into confusion on whether one of the Wolves who remain is a Wolf from the beginning or Frodo, but Sally gave it out, and I believe it was an innocent slip. Most of all, because I believe she was not able to communicate with the Wolves yet: I presume at Night, everybody sent their picks, and the Mod needed to get the PM from Wolves, then wait also for the PM from the Ranger (if perchance he did not save the target), and only then send PM to Frodo that he was turned. It would make sense that Sally could not PM with the Wolves at all, therefore she saw her newly formed Wraith-star rise and fall. Most lucky, otherwise it might have helped the general confusion.

Note also that it is interesting that Brinn names Sally also being dreamt of only on the fourth night. That calls for attention. Of course the Wolves were aware that Sally was turned just on the last night: therefore, had the false Seer said that she dreamed of Sally let's say on Night 3, it won't make sense. I take both the Seer's lists - whichever of them would be the right one - also as another proof that Sally is Frodo.

Originally Posted by Beregond

"Of course we can't ignore the early voters (or the non-voters) either, as I'm sure there's at least one wraith among them. Really what I need to do is take a closer look at everyone, as I'm sure someone is slipping under my radar. But that'll have to wait until tomorrow as it is extremely late and I must sleep."

Which could have been a hint, or...not.

I don't think that's much of a hint. Or at least I would not have taken it as one. But Brinn will surely tell us if she wants to, what she meant by hints.

EDIT: x-ed with Agan and Bere