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Legate of Amon Lanc · 02-12-2009, 07:48 AM

Morgoth is interesting, but Bolg has a cool father and cool bodyguard and in the Middle-Earth: The Balrog cards he has a picture where he looks like a weird green Orc with a yellow horned helmet, but I like the picture. And he fought Beorn and was killed, whereas Morgoth fought Fingolfin and was not. Now say, who is cooler...

++Bolg

Orcs are nice.

Andsigil · 02-12-2009, 11:30 AM

A single orc, who wouldn't even be here had it not been for the Father of All Evil in ME vs. The Father of All Evil in ME?

I have to go with ++Mr Bauglir.

skip spence · 02-12-2009, 12:52 PM

++Morgoth the Marrer

Who was Bolg again?

Tuor in Gondolin · 02-12-2009, 01:47 PM

+ + Bolg

He met his death like a man (well, an orc)
unlike weasely Morgoth hiding at the bottom
of his keep and letting his minions get whacked
(even the noble dragons)!

wilwarin538 · 02-12-2009, 02:05 PM

++ Morgoth

Gotta love the crazy psycho bad guys....

and I don't know who Bolg is,

Groin Redbeard · 02-12-2009, 02:08 PM

Bolg sounds like an Orc who would sit on a pile of Crispy Cream Doughnuts and eat 'till he busts. The book doesn't mention anything scary about him at all; the only thing it says is that his bodyguards were big and strong.

++Morgoth

Nerwen · 02-12-2009, 02:24 PM

A tough one:

Bolg is certainly a tragic victim of the ursine menace and the son of that Orc with the really cool name... but there wouldn't have been much of a story without

++Morgoth.

the phantom · 02-12-2009, 06:36 PM

Well, hmm... Based on accomplishments you'd have to go with Morgoth.

Bolg could not contend with Beorn. Morgoth successfully competed against all the Valar for a long time.

Bolg was unable to win the Lonely Mountain from a small army of men, elves, and dwarves. Morgoth was able to hold sway over most of ME for a time, and then came back and took over lots of it again, snatching it from some of the greatest men, elves, and dwarves ever.

So really, if Bolg is going to win, it has to be based on something other than talent and power and cunning and deeds and stature etc.

Personality perhaps?

Nah... I just can't bring myself to vote Bolg over Morgoth. Bolg just isn't that impressive. Azog and Grishnakh are both way better, so if I'm going to pick an orc over the master of evil, there are better choices.

++Morgoth

02-12-2009, 07:48 AM	#1
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Morgoth is interesting, but Bolg has a cool father and cool bodyguard and in the Middle-Earth: The Balrog cards he has a picture where he looks like a weird green Orc with a yellow horned helmet, but I like the picture. And he fought Beorn and was killed, whereas Morgoth fought Fingolfin and was not. Now say, who is cooler... ++Bolg Orcs are nice. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

02-12-2009, 11:30 AM	#2
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	A single orc, who wouldn't even be here had it not been for the Father of All Evil in ME vs. The Father of All Evil in ME? I have to go with ++Mr Bauglir. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

02-12-2009, 12:52 PM	#3
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	++Morgoth the Marrer Who was Bolg again? __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan

02-12-2009, 01:47 PM	#4
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	+ + Bolg He met his death like a man (well, an orc) unlike weasely Morgoth hiding at the bottom of his keep and letting his minions get whacked (even the noble dragons)! __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

02-12-2009, 02:05 PM	#5
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	++ Morgoth Gotta love the crazy psycho bad guys.... and I don't know who Bolg is, __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

02-12-2009, 02:08 PM	#6
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	Bolg sounds like an Orc who would sit on a pile of Crispy Cream Doughnuts and eat 'till he busts. The book doesn't mention anything scary about him at all; the only thing it says is that his bodyguards were big and strong. ++Morgoth __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

02-12-2009, 02:24 PM	#7
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	A tough one: Bolg is certainly a tragic victim of the ursine menace and the son of that Orc with the really cool name... but there wouldn't have been much of a story without ++Morgoth. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

02-12-2009, 06:36 PM	#8
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Well, hmm... Based on accomplishments you'd have to go with Morgoth. Bolg could not contend with Beorn. Morgoth successfully competed against all the Valar for a long time. Bolg was unable to win the Lonely Mountain from a small army of men, elves, and dwarves. Morgoth was able to hold sway over most of ME for a time, and then came back and took over lots of it again, snatching it from some of the greatest men, elves, and dwarves ever. So really, if Bolg is going to win, it has to be based on something other than talent and power and cunning and deeds and stature etc. Personality perhaps? Nah... I just can't bring myself to vote Bolg over Morgoth. Bolg just isn't that impressive. Azog and Grishnakh are both way better, so if I'm going to pick an orc over the master of evil, there are better choices. ++Morgoth __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

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