Tol-in-Gaurhoth LVII - Chess Game for Middle Earth: Game Thread

[Hansy]

Most of this stuff is taken out of Day 2, maybe I've mixed some ideas in, but at this moment that's what I've analyzed. If it doesn't take too long, I'm re-reading Day 3 today, but I don't think it's happening.

Durelin - Right now, who I'm more confident of their innocence. Seems the most sincere to me.
Feanor of the Peredhil - For someone as strong-minded as her, getting a vote from narrowing down the player list is kind of strange... she didn't stand out anymore, that adds to my suspicions.
Isabellkya - I'd still go innocent for her; she's usually more agressive when she plays evil. So I like the general smooth appearance of her.
the phantom & Brinniel - Seeing them both involved on Gwath's and Nogrod's lynches, they barely interacted with each other, I'd think this is a good shot on a evil duo... You could throw in Fea here, maybe Day 1's occurance was meant to make her look worse, I don't know.
satansaloser2005 - She's playing it different than last game; I can't relate her with anyone, but I can't stop thinking she's evil. Add Eomer's death, you have your Black Queen. Do us all a favor and kill that black bishop/rook tonight. If you don't, they'll outnumber everyone soon anyway, giving you no room.
Lariren Shadow - Went back from "probably innocent" to "I have no idea". Her posts weren't conclusive enough for me, they were giving mixed impressions.
wilwarin538 - When she posted her list on day 2 I agreed with most of her points, from what I've seen I'm not worried so far, if she's a wolf it's playing the backup member or something.
Rikae - Her reasoning is, well, reasonable all the time. I don't know how she plays evil, but this Rikae looks more or less like the innocent Rikae from last game.
Eonwe - Just didn't see enough, though I remember him raising my eyebrow on Day 1.
Mnemosyne - Now I'm starting to worry about her.. when Izzy asked her about the "Who're we killing today?" bit she said right after Night 2, it could be taken as a cobbler hinting to the wolves.
Kath - Nothing stands out from what I've seen, really. Overall innocent feeling.

So, summary:

More Evil: TP, Sally
Less Evil: Nemo, Brinn
I don't know: Eonwe, Fea, Lari
Less Innocent: Kath, Izzy
More Innocent: Durelin, Rikae, Wilva

++The Phantom

[satansaloser2005]

Hansy's analysis of a few people, put in italics, followed by my reaction in regular type. Does not necessarily reflect my opinion of the players he's analyzing, but rather my comment on his logic. Thanks for listening, and enjoy my post.


Durelin - Right now, who I'm more confident of their innocence. Seems the most sincere to me.

Just to point it out for you, Durie's a girl. Just so you know. She does indeed seem sincere, but just because she seems sincere and kind doesn't mean she's innocent, so keep that in mind.

Feanor of the Peredhil - For someone as strong-minded as her, getting a vote from narrowing down the player list is kind of strange... she didn't stand out anymore, that adds to my suspicions.

So Fea's not Fea enough for you? Erm....okay? So she's not allowed to be logical now, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. Don't worry, Fea, we all still love you, even if you go sane on us.

Isabellkya - I'd still go innocent for her; she's usually more agressive when she plays evil. So I like the general smooth appearance of her.

But players change styles, so saying that she is acting normally is saying nothing, especially for a good player like Izzy.

the phantom & Brinniel - Seeing them both involved on Gwath's and Nogrod's lynches, they barely interacted with each other, I'd think this is a good shot on a evil duo... You could throw in Fea here, maybe Day 1's occurance was meant to make her look worse, I don't know.

I won't really disagree with this, but both of them voting for the same people doesn't mean they're on the evil team together. Maybe a bishop/rook and a cobbler, Queen and cobbler, or Queen and bishop/rook, but Brinn and Phantom are, at least in my opinion, too smooth to be that obvious, especially when they could have let Fea die (I know Brinn's cool with throwing her packmates under the bus and I'm sure Phantom would be too, which of course isn't to speak ill of them) and gone on about their business.

satansaloser2005 - She's playing it different than last game; I can't relate her with anyone, but I can't stop thinking she's evil. Add Eomer's death, you have your Black Queen. Do us all a favor and kill that black bishop/rook tonight. If you don't, they'll outnumber everyone soon anyway, giving you no room.

Now I don't mind being suspected, but this is rather silly. Hun, of course I am playing differently from last game. Last game I was evil, this game I'm not. And how does Eomer's death implicate me? I mean yes, he voted me, but believe me, I'm rarely that transparent with my kills. Besides, I would rather have taken out other players of whom I was afraid, or whom I thought would be a good no-trace kill. Eomer's not my kill style (not that you'll believe me, of course, and I wouldn't expect you to) so his death tells you nothing. However, I'd love to help you get rid of the black bishop or black rook. Even the Queen, if I can manage it. Just give me a bit more time and I can guarantee I'll be able to help the village.

Lariren Shadow - Went back from "probably innocent" to "I have no idea". Her posts weren't conclusive enough for me, they were giving mixed impressions.

Okay....not much to say if he doesn't have anything really to say.

wilwarin538 - When she posted her list on day 2 I agreed with most of her points, from what I've seen I'm not worried so far, if she's a wolf it's playing the backup member or something.

Or she's playing it carefully. Remember that a good wolf knows who to suspect in order to look good, if that makes any sense at all, and just because you agree with someone doesn't mean they're innocent.

Rikae - Her reasoning is, well, reasonable all the time. I don't know how she plays evil, but this Rikae looks more or less like the innocent Rikae from last game.

Dude, a reasonable Rikae is an evil Rikae. They're all evil Rikaes. Seriously though, Rikae's always fairly reasonable, at least in her arguments, even if she acts like a complete whackjob.

Eonwe - Just didn't see enough, though I remember him raising my eyebrow on Day 1.

Understandable. He's not been around a whole lot.

Mnemosyne - Now I'm starting to worry about her.. when Izzy asked her about the "Who're we killing today?" bit she said right after Night 2, it could be taken as a cobbler hinting to the wolves.

Doubtful. Mnemo's just playful like that. She could be evil in some form, but I doubt that would be one of the indicators of her role.

Kath - Nothing stands out from what I've seen, really. Overall innocent feeling.

Again, nothing really said, so nothing to say.

Originally Posted by Hansy

++The Phantom

Bwah?!!?!?!?!??


EDIT: x'd since my last

[satansaloser2005]

I wouldn't be happy about it, but if it would relieve the tie situation I suppose I could switch to Brinn. However, Hansy is my first priority so I'd have to be more convinced about her guilt (and have a guarantee that she would 'win' the lynch) before I would retract and vote her. Basically it's not going to happen, but like I said, I freaking hate ties.

[Mnemosyne]

To Sally:

Yeah, and the thing is, since this is my first game I don't know if my vibes are accurate or not. I reread all of Brinn's posts and really the only thing that I find iffy about her is how her votes have both ended up being quite powerful--which is no evidence at all!

I'd like to hear some defense from Hansy. Will look at his posts in more detail as he's another vibey sort.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Mnemo

See, the thing is I could totally see phantom Night One being like, "Let's always vote the same way every Day! No one will suspect us!" And he'd be able to pull it off, too.

If you knew me at all, then you'd know I never take orders from the phantom. The minute he starts to boss me around, I cover my ears and scream, "NO!"

Yeah, that's just how I am.

[Brinniel]

And before I forget:

++Nilp

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

If you knew me at all, then you'd know I never take orders from the phantom. The minute he starts to boss me around, I cover my ears and scream, "NO!"

Yeah, that's just how I am.

Heh. She has a point.

[Mnemosyne]

Well, IF you went along with it he'd be able to pull it off.

[Hansy]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

I'd like to hear some defense from Hansy. Will look at his posts in more detail as he's another vibey sort.

Defense from what? Sally's entitled to her opinion on my logic, I don't think I have much to say about it. Most of her reactions are based on her previous knowledge of the players in this game - except for Izzy, where she does the exact opposite, underestimating the patterns and looking for clean behaviours.
About TP and Brinn, the fact is that they both voted last-second, on both days, and for the same person. And it's just like you said, it's something that TP could easily double bluff, "oh he wouldn't be that obvious, would he?"

[Hansy]

x'd since Brinn's #525. And I'm yet to know what we're supposed to do with this

[Mnemosyne]

Originally Posted by Hansy

except for Izzy, where she does the exact opposite, underestimating the patterns and looking for clean behaviours.

Care to clarify?

Also, if that spelling denotes your nationality, aren't you up a little late?

[Isabellkya]

Originally Posted by Shasta

In other news, your Almighty Mod-Lord of Doom and Pointless but Fun Exposition is quite pleased with this game so far. You game pieces are doing quite well. To reward you, I'm going to let you vote among yourselves to decide who shall get a cameo-parody in the next lynch plot! No, you can't vote yourself. Color your plot-cameo votes in highlight, please.

Just means that, we vote for someone we want to see in toDay's lynch plot.


X'd with phantom and Mnemosyne.

[satansaloser2005]

Hansy 3
Phantom, Izzy, and Sally 2 each

[satansaloser2005]

Izzy, whatever you choose, now is totally not the time for a toss-up.



Good points about Lari. I'll have a look at her, though it definitely won't be toDay.

[Isabellkya]

Awh, thanks for that Lariren. I had seen your name on a playerlist three games ago I think. But wasn't sure how long you had been around.

X'd since Sally at #559

[Isabellkya]

I wont vote for phantom.
I can't bring myself to vote for Hansy, because I don't find anything about him suspicious; and voting for him would feel really wrong.

So, that leaves..
++Sally.
Sorry.I feel less wrong voting you than I do the others.

X'd since Mnemosyne's #572