WWLVIII: Escape From Angband (or Behavioral Modification) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Kath · 03-22-2009, 10:33 AM

I'm around so I'm going to ramble for a bit.

Right ...

So, now that we're confident that there was no Ranger save doesn't that seem to negate Rikae's theory about Mith?

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but, of course, we know the seer wasn't protected, because the ranger protected xemself, as the narration clearly indicates. Which means the seer was not attacked, which can only mean Mith is a bluffing duck who threw Lommy to the... wolves... to make herself look good. Therefore:

Is what Rikae said but we know that the Ranger had nothing to do with anything last Night. Maybe Mith wasn't hinting at being the Seer by being so sure of Lommy but actually knew something about Lommy due to being this phantom's apprentice. Perhaps she and the phantom are able to communicate Nightly. What we don't know though is whether a phantom and phantom's apprentice win is a win for the village or whether they are similar to the Lovers in that they only win for themselves.

Rikae has returned since but doesn't seem to have rethought her plan since learning that the Ranger wasn't involved as Mith still equals duck in her latest list. Just wondering how her reasoning can be so certain given the new information.

Kath · 03-22-2009, 10:38 AM

Bah, double post but I just saw something Brinn said which adds to what I was talking about.

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Perhaps this person was able to unlock their role when the wolves chose to attack them.

This is a very interesting idea. Given how right Mith was about Lommy yesterDay it would seem pretty likely that the wolves would think she was the Seer as how else would she have been that certain about the information and so they decided to go after her, but because of that her secret apprentice role was unlocked. That actually sounds pretty likely.

Kath · 03-22-2009, 10:54 AM

Added on to all the phantom's apprentice stuff is Nilp's behaviour. First he says that the apprentice is someone who is dead to the village but still talking, however that isn't the case for anybody as everyone is on the alive list. Then clarifies by saying that while they can talk they don't count in the village tally - but again I think anyone like that wouldn't be in the alive list. And then, after all that, reveals, except with a

which sort of suggests that he's not actually serious. Finally he votes for me but we have no reasoning.

All in all, I'm a little confused by this and I don't think he is what he is potentially trying to claim he is.

Rikae · 03-22-2009, 11:16 AM

Mith is still suspect - she was running around screaming "I am the seer" yesterDay, and toDay she's still alive (and, presumably,, wasn't attacked).

Rikae · 03-22-2009, 11:18 AM

Besides - she doesn't know something that I happen to know the real seer would know. No, I'm not the real seer, don't waste your protection on me, ranger; but I do know something about the real seer's role. And that's all I really can say.

Rikae · 03-22-2009, 11:21 AM

Remember, the gifteds in this game are "modified".

Mithalwen · 03-22-2009, 11:40 AM

I am not a duck for the record (I woiuld say that wouldn't I ?) but like a duck I am working hard beneath the surface.

Of course I look strange but this game is a ..well I can't use the word I would in RL.... all I can say is you have plenty of time to lynch me when I stop being useful.

Oh and there is a fairly high probability that Rikae is a cobbler.

03-22-2009, 10:54 AM	#3
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Added on to all the phantom's apprentice stuff is Nilp's behaviour. First he says that the apprentice is someone who is dead to the village but still talking, however that isn't the case for anybody as everyone is on the alive list. Then clarifies by saying that while they can talk they don't count in the village tally - but again I think anyone like that wouldn't be in the alive list. And then, after all that, reveals, except with a which sort of suggests that he's not actually serious. Finally he votes for me but we have no reasoning. All in all, I'm a little confused by this and I don't think he is what he is potentially trying to claim he is. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

03-22-2009, 11:40 AM	#7
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I am not a duck for the record (I woiuld say that wouldn't I ?) but like a duck I am working hard beneath the surface. Of course I look strange but this game is a ..well I can't use the word I would in RL.... all I can say is you have plenty of time to lynch me when I stop being useful. Oh and there is a fairly high probability that Rikae is a cobbler. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

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03-22-2009, 11:16 AM	#4
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Mith is still suspect - she was running around screaming "I am the seer" yesterDay, and toDay she's still alive (and, presumably,, wasn't attacked).

03-22-2009, 11:18 AM	#5
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Besides - she doesn't know something that I happen to know the real seer would know. No, I'm not the real seer, don't waste your protection on me, ranger; but I do know something about the real seer's role. And that's all I really can say.

03-22-2009, 11:21 AM	#6
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Remember, the gifteds in this game are "modified".