Game Thread: Werewolf- this time it's real!

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I am hording, I am sure you understand why, my extra votes.

The problem with your suggestion, Izzy, is that Gwath thinks he might be Pippin. So even if both of them donate toward Greenie, who is obviously going to force us to use our votes to save me and kill her, we'll still need an extra five votes at least, just to make sure she actually dies.

[Isabellkya]

Well yeah.
But both of them can't be Pippin and both of them could be evil.

At minimum we need 11 votes, at max we need 16.

If they both donate, and one is Pippin and one is a baddie. Then that is at least five bonus votes, and max ten (if neither are Pippin).

Greenie is already at three, so we need eight or fourteen votes from everyone.

It would be too easy for both of them to not show back up, and to not use their bonus votes.

It would be silly for us to let Greenie live toDay.
Of course, those who choose not to use their bonus votes, are pretty much giving a signal that they don't have the village's best interest in mind.

[Kent2010]

And I was correct about Nogrod, Sally, Brinn (to a point - never thought she was Grima) and Formendacil, but horribly wrong about Kuru. What's the point? Nilp's reaction to my fake transmission is not something I would expect from a baddie, because that's something that you really can't argue. From Nilp's reaction I think it's pretty clear he's is innocent and frustrated because of how aggressively I went after him today, even faking a Luthien transmission.

Heaven forbid I'm actually trying to figure people out in my own way, but you could sue me for not being helpful if it benefits you. It's been very sluggish posting wise in this game, and I felt like stirring the pot, forgive me for causing action and forcing reactions from people. I don't have the time, nor the experience or knowledge to analyze posts and everyone's votes, I'm going by a method that I trust has been moderately successful, despite a few epic failures.

Oh, that has nothing to do with the validity of Kent's evaluations. It's just that I'm charming enough to cloud his vision. This way:
-Greenie

I can't say Nogrod didn't warn me.

[Kent2010]

Izzy if you want to prove to me you are innocent, dump all your remaining bonus on Greenie today.

[Kent2010]

Gwath and if you think you are Pippin you should have no qualms about using all your bonus today either, same goes for Shasta.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I submit that those voting for Greenie should vote, retract, and vote again. Like... now.

That way Green is solidly ahead of me for votes.

I will hold onto my bonus votes (the logic of this should be clear: I am a dreamed innocent who just handed the village a wolf by way of Luthiendacil trusting me enough to send me his last dream; if I was a baddie, I'd have kept information to myself; it's not like I'd need to lie) in the event that somebody else tries any funny business. It's no problem for me to stay up until deadline: I'm at work until then anyway. As is Lari.

The only question is, who do we force/enlist to vote Greenie?

[Kent2010]

The only question is, who do we force/enlist to vote Greenie?
-Fea

I say everyone except you. If there was a way we could figure out who Pippin is that would be a bonus, but at this stage it is not necessary.

We get the known wolf today, and there are several days (despite the limited information) of Greenie's interactions and people's interactions with her. We wouldn't find out anything about the votes today, but there's other stuff to go on, and I think the immediate issue is making sure Greenie is lynched today and making sure every one uses their remaining bonus.

I think it would be rather useless for the two unknown baddies to try something tricky, they would expose themselves and that would significantly increase Finrod's chances of a successful protection. And with Thuringwethil unable to kill for another two days would they really want to risk that exposure, and risk letting this slip out of their fingers when they have absolutely dominated so far?

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Izzy , I am almost certainly sure Fea will be killed toDAY cos Kent has no more bonus votes, hence, less leverage.

Of course, I am being rather simplistic with this assumption, on so many levels. I'll leave it to y'all to figure out which.

Hm, so the Wolfies don't command a majority yet? Or are they toying with us until before the deadline?

[Kent2010]

Hm, so the Wolfies don't command a majority yet? Or are they toying with us until before the deadline?
-Nilp

That's something interesting I didn't think of. If Shasta and Gwath were both wolves, they could have ended this already (especially with the votes taken from Formendacil). One of them could still be a baddie, but now I feel assured both can not be unless they are both just toying with us until the deadline.

Also, Fea, I would suggest if anyone still wants to horde their bonus (besides you of course), we could always retract our votes for Greenie and vote for that person, because I don't think we have to fear Greenie coming back, she's never been at the deadline before. At this point, I can't see why any innocent would want to horde their bonus, and that is why I advocate everyone get rid of them. Which means yes, vote, retract, and vote again, that is something we will have to try and enforce.