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Old 04-21-2009, 08:04 PM   #1
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Hm, so the Wolfies don't command a majority yet? Or are they toying with us until before the deadline?
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That's something interesting I didn't think of. If Shasta and Gwath were both wolves, they could have ended this already (especially with the votes taken from Formendacil). One of them could still be a baddie, but now I feel assured both can not be unless they are both just toying with us until the deadline.

Also, Fea, I would suggest if anyone still wants to horde their bonus (besides you of course), we could always retract our votes for Greenie and vote for that person, because I don't think we have to fear Greenie coming back, she's never been at the deadline before. At this point, I can't see why any innocent would want to horde their bonus, and that is why I advocate everyone get rid of them. Which means yes, vote, retract, and vote again, that is something we will have to try and enforce.
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:14 PM   #2
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Oh but Kent, I have no desire to prove to you that I am innocent.

Do you live in the US Kent? If so, then I could indeed sue you for not being helpful - and I just might win. Ya know... emotional damage and such. xD

I think it imperative that we lynch Greenie toDay. Also, to keep as many bonus votes on our side as possible.

If we make it through toDay and toNight, then we will be here toMorrow. To just dump all bonus votes toDay would be a huge mistake.
Unless, everyone agrees to have the bonus vote showdown toDay. Which I highly doubt.
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:19 PM   #3
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If we make it through toDay and toNight, then we will be here toMorrow. To just dump all bonus votes toDay would be a huge mistake.
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That is why it is imperative that all innocents have to save Fea and make sure she doesn't have to use her votes today. And if all unknown innocents do it, we will force the baddies to as well, because they would expose themselves, and make Finrod's protection choice a heck of a lot easier.

At this stage, bonus votes in the hands of unknowns only benefit the wolves, and it is imperative we not only lynch Greenie, but make sure Fea can horde her bonus.
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:29 PM   #4
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After rereading the pages tacked to the wall over there a few times, I believe I mistook how the stolen votes work.

If the Vampire chooses to use their stolen votes, and wish to use them on Fea - then they would have to actually vote for Fea.
Which would be a dead give away.

To stay hidden, they'd have to vote for Greenie and not use their bonus votes - thus not using their stolen votes.
So anyone not using their bonus votes toDay - is giving a signal of A)not having the village's best interest in mind and B) being guilty of being the Vampire. Save for Kent who doesn't have any, and Fea for being a known innocent.

So Vampire. As I believe I see it - either way you will be known and (hopefully) lynched toMorrow. xD
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Since people have said it is pretty much a given that Fea would be killed during the Night, would not the baddies choose a different target?
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Since people have said it is pretty much a given that Fea would be killed during the Night, would not the baddies choose a different target?
Depends on whether or not they want to take that chance.

More importantly: I absolutely agree that all bonus votes must be used today. Voted, Retracted, and revoted.

Within the next hour.

Except for mine.

So:

Start voting for A Little Green.

Now.
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I mean really at this point dumping bonus votes would be like nuclear disarmament.

It would be silly for anyone except for Fea to hold on to their remaining votes. Because...

1. We get Greenie today, the score is then 5-2. Obviously Greenie has to go today because the two other wolves don't have the combined power to over ride us, or this would be over already.

2. That leaves everyone with zero except for the known innocent Fea. It would be silly for Finrod then to not protect Fea during the night. If the wolves choose someone else it is 4-2, but the voting power would be in the village advantage.

-If they do risk it and go for Fea (to take out the bonus advantage), than the score is 4-1 (Finrod dies, but he would take out one of the wolves) and they are even in a worse situation...as we lose Finrod, but they lose another and we still have the voting advantage (because Fea would be saved).

3. If the wolves decide to play tricksy and keep their bonus today to have an advantage the next day they risk blowing the entire game. As they are then completely exposed, but during the night they would still have to make a successful kill to win, Finrod (and everyone else) would know who the remaining baddies are and they risk Finrod making a successful protection, essentially handing the game away.

-Because as said above the wolves today do not have a bonus advantage, and they will be seeking to try and get a bonus advantage. But anyone trying to horde their bonus to try and get an advantage exposes themselves as a baddie. In order for the wolves to win, they still need to make a successful kill and by blatantly exposing themselves, they risk handing the game away, as Finrod would be keyed in to the wolves, making a successful protection greater.
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Or put it this way Izzy too, anyone who keeps their bonus, will be threatened by a mass retraction of Greenie and a pile up on said person hording their bonus.
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Why within the next hour?
Two hours until someone falls dead.

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I don't know why, but I've this sneaking suspicion that we are missing something completely obvious.
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:56 PM   #10
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Why would you switch lynch targets?
Just setting yourself up for disaster.

I'm keeping my bonus votes for the moment, because I've voted so close to the clock striking midnight every Day - that I just can't bear to break with habit.
Not that I'll wait until the dinging.
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