Game Thread: Werewolf- this time it's real!

[Isabellkya]

After rereading the pages tacked to the wall over there a few times, I believe I mistook how the stolen votes work.

If the Vampire chooses to use their stolen votes, and wish to use them on Fea - then they would have to actually vote for Fea.
Which would be a dead give away.

To stay hidden, they'd have to vote for Greenie and not use their bonus votes - thus not using their stolen votes.
So anyone not using their bonus votes toDay - is giving a signal of A)not having the village's best interest in mind and B) being guilty of being the Vampire. Save for Kent who doesn't have any, and Fea for being a known innocent.

So Vampire. As I believe I see it - either way you will be known and (hopefully) lynched toMorrow. xD

[Isabellkya]

Since people have said it is pretty much a given that Fea would be killed during the Night, would not the baddies choose a different target?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Since people have said it is pretty much a given that Fea would be killed during the Night, would not the baddies choose a different target?

Depends on whether or not they want to take that chance.

More importantly: I absolutely agree that all bonus votes must be used today. Voted, Retracted, and revoted.

Within the next hour.

Except for mine.

So:

Start voting for A Little Green.

Now.

[Kent2010]

I mean really at this point dumping bonus votes would be like nuclear disarmament.

It would be silly for anyone except for Fea to hold on to their remaining votes. Because...

1. We get Greenie today, the score is then 5-2. Obviously Greenie has to go today because the two other wolves don't have the combined power to over ride us, or this would be over already.

2. That leaves everyone with zero except for the known innocent Fea. It would be silly for Finrod then to not protect Fea during the night. If the wolves choose someone else it is 4-2, but the voting power would be in the village advantage.

-If they do risk it and go for Fea (to take out the bonus advantage), than the score is 4-1 (Finrod dies, but he would take out one of the wolves) and they are even in a worse situation...as we lose Finrod, but they lose another and we still have the voting advantage (because Fea would be saved).

3. If the wolves decide to play tricksy and keep their bonus today to have an advantage the next day they risk blowing the entire game. As they are then completely exposed, but during the night they would still have to make a successful kill to win, Finrod (and everyone else) would know who the remaining baddies are and they risk Finrod making a successful protection, essentially handing the game away.

-Because as said above the wolves today do not have a bonus advantage, and they will be seeking to try and get a bonus advantage. But anyone trying to horde their bonus to try and get an advantage exposes themselves as a baddie. In order for the wolves to win, they still need to make a successful kill and by blatantly exposing themselves, they risk handing the game away, as Finrod would be keyed in to the wolves, making a successful protection greater.

[Kent2010]

Or put it this way Izzy too, anyone who keeps their bonus, will be threatened by a mass retraction of Greenie and a pile up on said person hording their bonus.

[Isabellkya]

Why within the next hour?
Two hours until someone falls dead.

++Greenie


I don't know why, but I've this sneaking suspicion that we are missing something completely obvious.

[Isabellkya]

Why would you switch lynch targets?
Just setting yourself up for disaster.

I'm keeping my bonus votes for the moment, because I've voted so close to the clock striking midnight every Day - that I just can't bear to break with habit.
Not that I'll wait until the dinging.

[Kent2010]

Why would you switch lynch targets?
Just setting yourself up for disaster.
-Izzy

Greenie is a known wolf but she has expended all of her bonus, so if she survives today she won't have any power to save herself the following day. If you are hording your bonus you are benefitting the baddies that's it. If someone is hording them besides Fea that is not good, and every innocent should pile on their vote to the person trying to keep their bonus (you said yourself anyone who is hording their bonus except for Fea does not have the best interest of everyone in mind or they are the vampire), so anyone keeping their bonus I will assume is a baddie (or wants the baddies to win) and we will force that person to get rid of their bonus. Basically we can do it the nice way and agree to it, or the hard way and force everyone to dump their remaining bonus.

[Isabellkya]

By switching lynch targets you are..
A) not guaranteed they are a baddie
b) not guaranteed it will work. Mostly, not even a high probability of it working

[Kent2010]

False, we have already established if you are keeping your bonus, you don't have the best interest of everyone in mind, and right now you are purposefully keeping your bonus and being an obstructionist. So, you add all your bonus now, retract, and vote for Greenie again, or you are exposing yourself as a baddie to everyone and therefor it would be better to get rid of the baddie who is the bigger threat (the one with more bonus).