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Join Date: Mar 2003
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It seems there won't be much happening around this time, and I'm already sleepy, so it's time to vote. I'm sticking to my first and strongest suspicion.
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Wight
Join Date: Mar 2009
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To believe this will be the exact same scenario will likely get us into trouble, but I am not worried by Nogrod's aggressiveness today.
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Wight
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Here is where the headache sets in, because I do not have any idea one where to go.
Other than feeling pretty good about Legate and Eomer, everything else is a big blur. I like Legate because he makes long posts, alright that might be a bad reason, but he talks about everyone, which means if he is innocent he is analytical and he thinks. If a wraith he leaves a nice dirty laundry list. Keep him. And currently I am agreeing with Eomer about the several dodgy votes. I was first thinking this was a good list of names, and it may be unwise to expand it, because crunching the numbers, there is the probablility of a ringwraith. But then looking at the people with votes, I really can not see a reason to vote for one of them, and that got me thinking about voting early. But this is where I need some help, because I have no clue - there always seems to be a focus on the people who step out early and start suspecting peple. Then others respond with "ooh look at this person trying to steer our attention, lets watch him/her." But what about wraiths trying to focus our choices for later towards the deadline, by voting early and healthily spreading out the choices - making anyone wary of adding more names because we might feel "this is a good list for day 1?"
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Apr 2007
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I'm not keen on this "confusion" or anti-keenness towards Nog's "newfound aggressiveness". He was similar the last game, and he was innocent. This game, I think he just has more material to back up his 'lynch the quiet' stance.
I agree with the quit roleplaying. Or at least make sure you have enough game related material to counter the banter, in-character stuff. Otherwise, you can just float through the game - looking like you are being helpful and pro-innocent, when you are truly hiding behind your created character. I find myself agreeing with Nerwen here. The amount of random votes... well they are all random save for Nilp's. Isn't Nilp known for voting for himself? Even has a .. catch phrase? 'Nilping yourself'? X'd with Nog x2 and Kent.
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I'm off to review the votes so far - what where the given reasons for them that is. I'm pretty confident we have some easy-going wolves (well one at least) there. Voting early with random-grounds is the safest way to avoid the gallows on Day1 as no one will be ready to lynch someone for that only. And therefore perfect wolf-tactics. Quote:
And maybe something better will come forwards before voting-time... hopefully. EDIT: X'd with Eönwë... Bright timing!
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Apr 2007
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True Nog, but it was mostly directed at Legate's #59..
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Suspecting Nilp because he self-voted, well he does that frequently. True, it does not make him innocent, nor does it make him evil, it just makes him - him. I can provide other examples. I just find the entire concept a bit silly. 'tis like suspecting someone because their name starts with a particular letter. X'd with Rune, Legate and Eonwe.
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Brinn for Sally
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Three posts all of them basiclly oneliners. First a rant, second the one I quoted above and the last saying too much rum and going to be more active toMorrow. Anyone thinking that's an effort worth survival? I'm not. Nilp for Nilp The famous self-vote. Could be anything. Annoys me a lot - like it always does. Rune for Izzy Quote:
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Lhuna for Legate She has been consistently after Legate the whole Day. I wouldn't want to lose Legate on Day1 without a good reason but she seems persistent. It might be a wolf playing it consistently & intelligently - but if she is she deserves to play more than those innocents who do nothing. So I'm not going to vote for Lhuna toDay. EDit: X'd with a few...
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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It might even (if we were to take take it a little extremely) be a wolf apologising to another wolf for having to vote the other to distance themselves.
However, at the very least it looks suspicious. She's also trying to apologise for her voting. Very bad (and wolfish) move, as well as making it seem light. By the way, I'm referring to Brinn voting Sally here, as it doesn't seem too clear. ![]() Quote:
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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![]() Anyway, of course, Nogrod is right... well, I will be a minimalist here and just hope that the random votes will at least end with Day 1. And if possible, of course, that the people who are going to vote yet will avoid them. Quote:
Isabellkya is actually one of those I am considering for my voting. Others could come from the list of people I am watching: wilwa, sally, Eomer... I am more positive on Kent now after he started to post some substance. Let's see, I will think now about my vote. Quote:
Edit: x-ed after Lommy
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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++Rune
I disagree with Eomer that Rune's vote was the only "sensible" one of the bunch. Rune said his vote was 98% random, how is that sensible? Also, his reason for voting Izzy was she feels 'too careful?' I know now not to expect much out of Day 1 reasons, but I am more worried about someone slapping on a general feeling of uneasiness, then a random early vote, or people making role-playing posts. I will continue to attempt role playing syle posts, when the time seems right, because afterall the name is Jeremy and I am an entertainer. We all are entertainers of sorts, seeing this is mirth and mirth is fun. The way I see it, we chose characters for a reason, why choose them if we are to not have fun with them?Edit: was interrupted by having to set up a table crossed with everyone since Nogrod's post
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Legate.
What else do you expect me to do while I catch up on the missed material? Simply read it, and act like it was never spoken? xD Nog - he is his usual self, and I haven't found anything suspicious with him. Nilp. He is quiet, and he voted for himself. Usual behavior, I'm not suspicious toDay. Kent. Not toDay. I don't get how the whole deal making works into the game, and finding the Wraiths. Though I've learned my lesson, and will watch him - since he can be tricksy. Shasta - I've got my eye on you, like I said I would. If your participation doesn't bolster up, you most likely will get my vote toMorrow; if I'm still alive and there isn't a better candidate. Rune. I don't believe I've ever played with him before, so I can't judge what is typical behavior and what is not. Watching. Legate and Eomer - I keep reading their posts as from the same author for some reason. They/him make logical points, though they/him seem to be hovering a bit. Sally. Oh dear. She is Sally. While I don't like her vote for Nog. I'm just going to watch. Wilwa, Kath, Brin, Nienna. I've no idea. Quiet. I think Brin is the only typical loud one of the four. Will watch for now. Nerwen, Lhuna, Eonwe, Groin - no idea really. X'd since Nienna's #80. Fixed a rogue tag error.
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
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No, of course you may agree on what's been said if you do agree, that's certain. However, don't you have any contributive thoughts of your own? After you spend the time with reading all that's been posted, don't you have anything else to add?
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Might be trying to throw us off the scent or just messsing with our minds. Anyway, I haven't played with him before so I have no idea how he plays.
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Note that he's phantasizing, as opposed to fantasising (looks a bit wrong to me, but I'm sure that's the correct spelling, at least for us Engliscan-folc).
I feel like I want to make a list, but I'm really not sure what I think about people yet- toDay is Day 1, and an exceptionally quiet one at that. We still have half an hour, as I make it.
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I wrote 98% random, because that is essentially what it is! I felt that Isabel's post seemed very controlled and carefull, but this is based on 1 single post, that hardly makes a proper case. . . In my post you could read my selection prosses: I had no proper suspects and did not think I could make it back before the deadline. So I had to decide between not voting or making an early voted based on very little evidence, I chose the latter. Then I decided to go for the posts which I had felt indifferent about upon first reading, you know. . . taking a close look at the ones where nothing catched your eye at first. Here I noticed that Isabel's post seemed sort of fabricated. So there is reasoning behind it, but it is vote based on so little that I would call it a quite random vote. EDIT: Cross Posted with plenty of people. . .since post 84 or so |
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Yes, "Nogrod with human face"
![]() Anyway... as for my voting... I might as well go with my vote for Isabellkya now and be done with it, because I can already see the mass floodposting coming in the last few minutes... but then again, if Nogrod was to be lynched, I would not like to see him go now, so maybe I should hold to see...
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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Well, anyway. I should make my mind as to whom to vote for. I will try to sum up my thoughts now... edit: x-ed since Kent's 66
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![]() Yes. Most of the votes so far have been just terrible. The problem is that not all who have voted yet can be werewolves. Shame on you people. ![]() How can we separate the maliciously bad votes from the rest if everyone votes "randomly" or with no points whatsoever? Every nonsense vote given by an innocent eases the task of the wolves to blend in the crowd of whom nothing can be said about toMorrow. (Oh, how I phantasize a werewolfing community where random-voting on Day1 would lead to quick and immediate lynch - that way the wolves would be forced to try and play and not just hunker down with their malicious "random-votes") Okay. One hour+ remaining. Hoist the sails!
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Lommy!
I didn't find any mentioning of a modfire from the rules. So is there one - and which are the conditions for it - or do we have to decide what to do with the dead load ourselves?
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Shady She-Penguin
Join Date: Dec 2004
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Yes, I forgot to mention it. Modfire exists, but it's not based on any set rule, but on the Mod's consideration. The normal "two subsequent Days of no posting or voting" serves as a guideline, sort of...
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I did not say it about Wilwa because I have not played with her for years, I simply cannot remember how she usually plays. Kath has done this before, at least in some of the latter games, but it could be chance that has made it so and I do remeber games when she was active on day 1. Your comments on the other hand was 100% deliberate. . .there in lies the differense. That being said. . .maybe I should have said something about Kath, but I am not with out flaws. (oh and btw, Nogrod you are no trophy) Quote:
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Oh and there must be coming a lot of great votes now. . .backed with a ton of evidence, without a shred of randomness in them. Well, that must be the conclusion after reading through peoples complaints about the voting. EDIT: Cross Posted with Legate and Eonwe |
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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As to who that would be... well, I am still thinking of Isabellkya. She might be as well my pick #1 for toDay. But still a short time till DL. EDIT: x-ed with Isabellkya and Kent
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++ Sally
*sorry dear* *cough cough* "I mean ... GARRRR... Walk the Plank" Your vote for Nog worries me a bit. It almost seems like a bandwagon vote and those are never good. Nog was being a little zealous but I addressed my issue with that and he doesn't seem suspicious to me.
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Hmm, given my lack of posting toDay perhaps I'll let Nog get away with that earlier comment ... my day got a bit full!
But I'll have a wander through the thread and give my thoughts in a bit, assuming I'm right about it being a 9pm deadline for BST. I'm a little worried by this Nog bandwagon. For all that it would be a calmer, quieter game without him I don't particularly see why he's suddenly garnered all these votes. Back in a few.
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
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Kent, Rune might have said 98% random but I didn't take that seriously. He seemed to choose Isabellkya because of her careful opening post. Rune was looking for a standard wolf/ringwraith introduction and Isa's fit the bill.
Nothing Isabellkya has posted since has suggested that Rune is way off the mark, at least to me. She isn't really mentioning suspects and seems way too careful thus far.
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
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1) Mentions no-one.
2) Thinks Nogrod should be fairer on her but no big deal really. 3) Thinks that people should lay off Nogrod. 4) Her list post: She has a good feeling about yous truly, Eomer. She has a bad feeling about Shasta. 5) Asks for vote tally. 6) Votes Isabellkya, finding her last post suspicious. Here's Izzy's post: A three way tie. I'm tempted to leave it this way. Because tie's are always fun to watch get rolled. Then it would be a more random Day one lynching. Now, don't jump on me for saying this, but the only way the Wraiths think she was the Seer is because she listed everyone and said that she has a good feeling about precisely one of them: and that's Eomer. I don't consider her bad feeling about Shasta to indicate Seer-dom because it was a straight-forward vote-based criticism that anyone could have made. Now, I always think of finding the Seer first so those are my first thoughts. It could just be that she leaves no trail whatsoever, but I'm never sure Wraiths would kill like that.
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
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Brinniel votes for Sally, apparently because she likes her.
Shasta for Nogrod, apparently because he's stirring up too much trouble. Nilp for Nilp, apparently because he's still ill. Rune for Isabellkya, apparently because he sees her as being a bit too careful with her opening post. Wilwa for Eomer, because of process of elimination then coin-toss. Sally for Nogrod, for no apparent reason. Lhuna for Legate, she thinks his posts feel contrived. Kent for Rune, he didn't like Rune's vote for Izzy. Nienna for Sally, she didn't like her vote for Nogrod. Legate for Izzy, because he feels she didn't add any of her own thoughts. Izzy for Sally, self-defense. Kath for izzy, for suspicious previous post about leaving a tie. Eomer for Izzy, not actually for that suspicious post Kath referenced (I hadn't seen it) but because I chose between her or Sally. Izzy just felt too careful and conservative and seemed likely to me. Eonwe for Izzy, rather her than Sally or Nogrod. Nogrod for Sally. ------------------------------------------------------------ Votes I don't like: Brinniel, Shasta, Nilp, Wilwa and Sally's. Thing is, though, these are all early votes and the voters had less to go on. Nothing else stands out... exactly what the Wraiths would want. Ok, I'm looking for cool, sensible Wraiths now. The ones who made sensible votes that wouldn't attract attention.
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Brinn -> Sally
Shasta -> Nogrod Nilp -> Nilp Rune -> Isabellkya Wilwa -> Eomer Sally -> Nogrod 2 Lhuna -> Legate Kent -> Rune Nienna -> Sally 2 Of those who have garnered votes this far I'd be most happy to vote for Sally basically for bandwaggoning an innocent. Other ideas? Lots of votes yet to come...
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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End of Day1, stop posting.
Isabellkya was lynched. I will check the votes now and then reveal her role, because due to me spending the past hour or so studying and MSNing instead of sketching a narration, it won't be ready very soon... Ringwraiths, you may start plotting and then send me your pick. Gifteds, you may submit picks too.
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