WW LX - Mortal Men, doomed to die

[Nogrod]

So Nienna's and Kent's behaviour looks overly careful, Rune's I've talked already.

Legate's and Eomer's look consistent - which doesn't mark them innocents but talks a bit better of them anyway.

Which means Eönwë looks pretty bad to me right now. He was around but concentrated on everything else but on the situation at hand; trying to look helpful with making comments on Brinn and Kent who were not actually "on the menu" then - and ended up more or less ambivalent. Then his vote was the last one for Izzy, someone he hadn't even mentioned earlier (compare: he had indirectly indicated he had something against Sally when commenting my suspicipon of Brinn's vote for her earlier).

But to be true, I don't like the way Kent and Nienna drew off from the scene so near but safely far away from the DL either (I would be amazed if they both were wolves but one of them could be).

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nogrod about me

he had indirectly indicated he had something against Sally when commenting my suspicipon of Brinn's vote for her earlier).

Anyway, here I was referring more to Brinn than Sally. I even mentioned (maybe not so clearly) in my post that it might be pushing it too far to assume that Sally was in on it. But Brinn seemed too apologetic and un-... (well, I can't remember the word I'm looking for but I sort of mean that she made it look like she didn't really mean the vote) for my liking.

edit: no x-ing sadly. And only 30 mins to DL!

[Nogrod]

No problem there with you referring more to Brinn there Eönwë. I think that was quite clear. The thing was that as you at the end said you'd be choosing between Sally and Izzy you had at least indirectly pointed at Sally beforehand as a possible suspect but you hadn't said a word about Izzy whom you voted...

And your vote came from the bushes and no one had an idea who you were going to vote - and you didn't actually help us in that...

[Nogrod]

Okay. Get real people!

Where are you?

Any ideas you have?

[Nogrod]

After seeing Eönwë's list...

Never mind. I give up. Go and hang yourselves everyone. No sense in trying to help you people...



Could I vote for everyone?

[Nienna]

List as promised:

Kent2010 - Innocentish - I'm not seeing any real reason to suspect him. He has been posting and giving opinions. Voted Rune Day One. He's using reason and I'm reading his posts and they make it seem like he's never been a wolf. Which speaks to his innocence. If he a wolf I give him props.

Legate of Amon Lanc - No Idea - I'm not really really sure whats up with him. I'm not getting any overly good or bad vibes. Voted Izzy Day One. He is being reasonable.

Nogrod - Innocentish - His taking over as leader seems rather normal. His pushing of people to make a reaction seems legitimate. Vote didn't count.

Shastanis Althreduin - No Idea - Voted Nog Day One

wilwarin538 - No Idea - I'm leaning evilish. Voted Eomer Day One and Day Two. I'm thinking I might agree with who ever commented that the Eomer/Wilwa thing might be wolf on wolf.

Nerwen - Leaning Innocent - Didn't vote Day One, voted Sally Day Two.

Nilpaurion Felagund - Leaning Innocent - Voted self Day One. He seems to have made some sense toDay and is being reasonable.

Rune Son of Bjarne - No Idea - voted Izzy Day One. I have really no idea... could go either way.

Lhunardawen - No Idea - Voted Legate Day One. Same as Rune could go either way.

Eomer of the Rohirrim - Leaning Evil - Voted Izzy at the last minute Day One and voted Brinn toDay with no real reasoning. Of all the players talking the most, he is the one who is worrying me. It's not necessarily anything concrete that I can point to in a post number but more of an overall sense of something being not innocent. His interaction with Wilwa and his thoughts on the Kath kill are the most suspicious.

Groin Redbeard - No Idea - Nope no idea at all. Didn't vote Day One.

satansaloser2005 - Evil - Voted Nog day One with no real reason and voted I'm getting terrible evil vibes from her. This could be just the way she is playing or that she can't post much but if she is innocent she needs to post something helpful really really soon for me to not vote for her.

Eönwë - No Idea - Voted Izzy at the last minute.

Brinniel - Leaning Innocentish - She voted Sally day One and Eomer toDay. She's been really busy with RL and what she has posted has made a lot of sense.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

No problem there with you referring more to Brinn there Eönwë. I think that was quite clear. The thing was that as you at the end said you'd be choosing between Sally and Izzy you had at least indirectly pointed at Sally beforehand as a possible suspect but you hadn't said a word about Izzy whom you voted...

And your vote came from the bushes and no one had an idea who you were going to vote - and you didn't actually help us in that...

Ah. I see. Well, I've too often voted Sally when she seems suspicious and she turns out to be innocent. So I wanted to give her a chance to talk. Anyway, she didn't really seem very suspicious, not enough to lynch someone off.

edit: x-ed wi' Noggie

Where is everyone!?

[Eönwë]

I know it looks hypocritical especially when I have attacked (well, that's a bit of a strong word) someone when they have done the same. But if you insist...

Nienna - Seems like she's trying to help, but maybe a little false. However she may just not be getting any vibes like me, so I'm not ready to incriminate her yet.
Kent2010 - No idea. Never played with him before. He's doing a good job if he hasn't played WW/Mafia/etc before the Downs.
Legate of Amon Lanc - Mixed. There are many things he says that seem reasonable and helpful, while some things he says just seem a little sinister, but there's nothing I can pin down.
Nogrod - Seems innocent enough, but he's very good at hiding as an evil one.
Shastanis Althreduin - hasn't said much. Not enough for me to say anything on.
wilwarin538 - Seems a little evil. The way she posts
Nerwen - I have no idea. She doesn't speak much.
Nilpaurion Felagund - Just Nilp. However, his list seemed a bit too much, maybe a last-minute bid for survival?
Rune Son of Bjarne - I have no idea. He just comes and goes in waves. A very grey area for me.
Lhunardawen - Seems to be slipping under my radar, but hasn't said anything suspicious. It's probably just because she's being quiet.
Eomer of the Rohirrim - Totally enigmatic as usual. Originally seemed a little evil to me, now he seems more direct and honest. Not sure.
Groin Redbeard - Not spoken.
satansaloser2005 -Seems a little victimised to me. She hasn't really said anything I find suspicious.
Brinniel - Still don't like her vote for Sally. Seems a little evil to me.

[Eönwë]

++Eomer

Best to save an innocent (me)

[Eönwë]

Nienna - A pirate eh? You know what we do to pirates...
Kent2010 - He might scam us into joining him
Legate of Amon Lanc - rebels are never good for a stable society. I saw giive 'im the same treatment as pirates"
Nogrod - I don't fancy bein' hit by 'is famous The Cat O' Nine tails
Shastanis Althreduin - Pshhh! King?
wilwarin538 - A magic doer. Evil most likely.
Nerwen - See Shasta
Nilpaurion Felagund - can't be too fussy when lynchin'
Rune Son of Bjarne - See Wilwa. Only he has a more dramatic name.
Lhunardawen - See Legate
Eomer of the Rohirrim - Rohan? I dont like them thar people.
Groin Redbeard - The warlord is quiet. Who know what he plots
satansaloser2005 - Who is she? No fancy title? Why is she here?
Brinniel - See Sally


Oh... It was a serious list you wanted?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

It's really quiet, and so many votes to come.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I am sorry, Eönwë, but I'm afraid my ability to take your list at face value is somewhat degraded by its content. I would have believed that anyone would have something better to do with a list than that . . .

I am highly suspicious of you, and you will probably receive my vote for that.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I am aghast.

Vague suspicion lists seem to be in vogue.

A way to announce, 'Oh, I'm contributing', while keeping one's true thoughts hidden.

This is disturbing indeed.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Vague suspicion lists, coincidentally, limited my capacity for taking Legate and Eomer's innocence as a given.

But that for another DAY. My case has not yet been completely penned--and will like not be completed toDAY.

++Eönwë

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, it took me somewhat longer to re-read the thread, I was being... erm... distracted.

But anyway, after re-reading... the main points are that about Eomer... I confirmed my main feeling that it's actually not really that he would seem so suspicous to me, in the sense of seeming evil, but just being strange. That is, acting in a way... sort of not doing things that would seem beneficial in my opinion, but even not sure what would he gain from it as a Wraith - except for possibly picking his innocence from the Kath-theory: but that would be such a complicated way of getting innocentishness... only if Eomer-Wraith would be really convinced (and his mates likely too!) that what Kath said was a seer hint, he would think that other villagers would think that too - but basically, that is as much stretching it as Eomer's theory itself seems to me.

But anyway, the other thing when re-reading was a slight more suspicion I gained about wilwa... I am just wondering about her voting for these two days, whether the consistency in it could not be artificial... but well. I guess I don't have much time till DL, so let's see now who has posted meanwhile and then get into voting... Hm.

EDIT: x-ed since Eönwë 209 or such

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, now I got completely puzzled at Eönwë's list: could you explain what is that supposed to mean? (Though not that you could not have picked a better time for that...)

EDIT: again x-ed since my last post

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, you know what, right now I would almost feel like voting more some wilwa than Eomer, though my suspicion of wilwa is rather shallow and I have not yet had the time to think about it more.

One word to say for certain, I'm really a bit disappointed by the amount of people who are still not around toDay as much as I hoped them to be. Well of course, many are for some RL reasons - that's all right. But still, ah well, and mainly, those who could but would not post, that would be the worst.

And Eönwë, any explanations... gah, great. Should vote...

EDIT: okay, x-ed again basically since my last...

[wilwarin538]

Managed to make it on for some quick comments before the end.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

But anyway, the other thing when re-reading was a slight more suspicion I gained about wilwa... I am just wondering about her voting for these two days, whether the consistency in it could not be artificial... but well.

I can honestly say that my vote for Eomer yesterDay was random. The coin could have landed on Legate and I would still be suspicious of Eomer toDay, and good with Legate toDay. I'm not doing it purely to look consistent. I honestly just don't like the way Eomer is acting, I find him very defensive and eager to make himself look innocent.

Just wanted to comment on that quickly to just clear this up for good. I have to say I'm surprised on the small amount of votes so close to the end.

X'posted with a bunch actually

[Nogrod]

Looking how the clouds gather over Eomer I must say I'm a bit puzzled. He looks strange but that seldom means a wolf.

[Nogrod]

Sally and Eönwë topping my list of suspicions right now.

[wilwarin538]

Just saw the actual content of Eonwe's list....uhm, it's not Day 1 anymore, there really is no need for that.

[Nienna]

++ Sally

Edit: x-ed with Nog and Wilwa

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

I can honestly say that my vote for Eomer yesterDay was random. The coin could have landed on Legate and I would still be suspicious of Eomer toDay, and good with Legate toDay. I'm not doing it purely to look consistent. I honestly just don't like the way Eomer is acting, I find him very defensive and eager to make himself look innocent.

Okay, well, whatever. I may as well look at wilwa more toMorrow, if I'm around.

Let's see.

++Eomer

[Nogrod]

That did it Legate.

Do not lynch Eomer!

++ Eönwë

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Now, one more thing to say - I feel quite somewhat better about Nienna right now, basically because she started to post. People like Shasta though make me slightly uncomfortable, I think there was nothing about Shasta in particular that he would not be able to post toDay, or was it? "Nogrod with human face" or whatever, I'd like people not to hide in the shadows.