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Shastanis Althreduin · 06-30-2009, 05:58 PM

Okay, but if Lommy is a mutineer and not the Ranger, as she claimed, then where's the real Ranger? Mac specifically said it wasn't him, which makes me think that Mac is the mutineer of those two, and Lommy was just severely misguided about Eonwe and myself.

Nogrod · 06-30-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Okay, but if Lommy is a mutineer and not the Ranger, as she claimed, then where's the real Ranger?

Good point indeed... *needs to think*

Brinniel · 06-30-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

The other chance being - as it looks like Brinn is real with her expression "instant victory"

Well, maybe instant, give or take a phase or so...or maybe not. Don't try to read too literally into my words, as they do have a vague underlining to them. I'm not going to just give everything away because what's the fun in that?

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-30-2009, 07:36 PM

I'd just like to point out, Izzy, that Mutineer-on-Mutineer votes are much more playable in this setup, as the dead aren't silenced.

Isabellkya · 06-30-2009, 08:02 PM

Gwath? Nerwen? Either of you around?

Gwathagor · 06-30-2009, 08:06 PM

Hey, just got here.

Nogrod · 06-30-2009, 08:11 PM

Good points Izzy.

As I've said before, I'm soo happy I don't have to choose!

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Originally Posted by The Cap'n

Well, maybe instant, give or take a phase or so...or maybe not. Don't try to read too literally into my words, as they do have a vague underlining to them.

I do understand. It would be poor to give everything away that easily... I just noticed that one scenario where it could have been 5-4 and indeed "instant"... But as Izzy showed, that scenario looks quite implausible right now.

Nogrod · 06-30-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Gwath? Nerwen? Either of you around?

It would be better if you all voters would be around... It's no use us ghosts talking without you guys who make the decisions.

Gwathagor · 06-30-2009, 08:34 PM

It is conceivable that Greenie is lying about being the seer as either Wilwa, who was modfired, or Mira, who's out of touch, could be the real seer and we would never know. If Greenie is just a cobbler, then it opens up the possibility (however slim) that Nerwen may be a mutineer - which would support the odd fact that she has never been night-killed, despite being the closest thing we have to a live known innocent. Slim chance, though. More than likely, I reckon it'll come down to me and Izzy.

Isabellkya · 06-30-2009, 09:04 PM

Gwath.
I think he was talking about Wilwa coming and revealing that she was the seer - if she were. Since she had time to ask Brinn to mod-fire her.

-eyerolling at Nerwen-

You can't just take sentences out of context, and attempt to twist them to another meaning, and expect to get away with it Nerwen. You've been doing it -I've only noticed it in regards to myself- for sometime. I've called you on it numerous times.

You skipped over the part where I said I don't think it is the case of you and Gwath being MutieMates.

In the second portion, you are taking it out of context. Really Nerwen.
That was explaining why I think I'm still alive. Because I'm an easy lynch choice.

If you are going to try and say I'm a Mutie because of "weirdness", then you should've done it Days ago. Since it is in no way a new thing. Or "new information".

X'd with Gwath and Nog.

Nerwen · 06-30-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

Though, I still think the key is why Nerwen wasn't killed, and why you...would Izzy have gotten rid of someone who would likely vote against her, to keep you and Gwath, but also make her look more guilty by killing Nerwen? Or is Gwath hoping to use Nerwen's strong suspicion against Izzy, to vote for her, and put this game away?

I've been going over and over it in my head, and I just don't know. At first I was astonished that Shasta got it, but now I can see reasons why either of them might have killed him rather than me: a Gwathwolf could be using my suspicion of Izzy; an Isawolfkya could have been afraid that killing me would point straight to her.

However– a Gwathwolf shouldn't have had too much trouble getting someone other than himself lynched anyway.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Now this is an interesting reaction to someone making plain pure sense and weighing the different possible scenarios... An innocent - even if one that would end up suspected by that kind of analysis - wouldn't react that way, I'd suppose. "Nice try"?

An innocent who wasn't Izzy. Attacking anyone who looks at her sideways is actually one of her trademarks.

Really, though, if it were anyone else but Izzy in the dock I wouldn't be hesitating... but this is a player with a history of acting in a horribly suspicious way as an innocent.

I think– note that I'm only meaning this in the context of WW! – she has a genuine problem with understanding how she appears to others.

CF: her comments toDay:

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

If you think I'm the "best choice" then show/prove it.
And no, I've haven't done anything in my power to look suspicious.

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

I think "logically" it would be Gwath the mutineer and Nerwen the probable Cobbler; if you believe Greenie's claim.

If you were paranoid, and trying to delve into conspiracy-land Nerwen would be the Mutineer - and both Gwath and I as the innocents.

EDIT:X'd since Brinniel at 1276

Nerwen · 06-30-2009, 08:53 PM

More weirdness.

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

If Gwath is a mutineer, and you think Eonwe, Lommy, and Mac as possible Mutineers - then why did all three of them vote for Gwath this day? Gwath was going to be lynched, until he voted for Annu. If Nerwen and him are mates (which I don't think is the case.) - then it could be argued that Nerwen was trying to save him. Of course, if she is a Cobbler, then she could've been trying to save a suspected MutieGwath.

Huh? How could Gwath and I be mates now? It's not just a matter of "not thinking it's the case"– it's impossible!

Note that my switch here was actually precipitated by Rikae's Hunter-reveal.

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

I think even Gwath was thinking I was a Cobbler or Mutie yesterDay.

Possible slip ( showing she knows he's not a wolf)?

EDIT: X'd since my last post.

Gwathagor · 06-30-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Possible slip ( showing she knows he's not a wolf)?

Haha. "Even" Gwath?

06-30-2009, 05:58 PM	#1
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Okay, but if Lommy is a mutineer and not the Ranger, as she claimed, then where's the real Ranger? Mac specifically said it wasn't him, which makes me think that Mac is the mutineer of those two, and Lommy was just severely misguided about Eonwe and myself. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

06-30-2009, 07:36 PM	#4
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	I'd just like to point out, Izzy, that Mutineer-on-Mutineer votes are much more playable in this setup, as the dead aren't silenced. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

06-30-2009, 08:02 PM	#5
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Gwath? Nerwen? Either of you around? __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-30-2009, 08:06 PM	#6
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	Hey, just got here. __________________ Stories and songs.

06-30-2009, 08:34 PM	#9
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	It is conceivable that Greenie is lying about being the seer as either Wilwa, who was modfired, or Mira, who's out of touch, could be the real seer and we would never know. If Greenie is just a cobbler, then it opens up the possibility (however slim) that Nerwen may be a mutineer - which would support the odd fact that she has never been night-killed, despite being the closest thing we have to a live known innocent. Slim chance, though. More than likely, I reckon it'll come down to me and Izzy. __________________ Stories and songs.

06-30-2009, 09:04 PM	#10
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Gwath. I think he was talking about Wilwa coming and revealing that she was the seer - if she were. Since she had time to ask Brinn to mod-fire her. -eyerolling at Nerwen- You can't just take sentences out of context, and attempt to twist them to another meaning, and expect to get away with it Nerwen. You've been doing it -I've only noticed it in regards to myself- for sometime. I've called you on it numerous times. You skipped over the part where I said I don't think it is the case of you and Gwath being MutieMates. In the second portion, you are taking it out of context. Really Nerwen. That was explaining why I think I'm still alive. Because I'm an easy lynch choice. If you are going to try and say I'm a Mutie because of "weirdness", then you should've done it Days ago. Since it is in no way a new thing. Or "new information". X'd with Gwath and Nog. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

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