TIG: LXV - Our fate lies with...them? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

wilwarin538 · 08-18-2009, 09:02 PM

"grotesque beast"???

come now, must you be so cruel to me?

Boromir88 · 08-18-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wilwarin538

"grotesque beast"???

come now, must you be so cruel to me?

I'm sorry ...I am really mean to you aren't I? I've changed it for you. I heart you.

Rikae · 08-18-2009, 09:22 PM

Nice work, Shasta, if you can hear me where you are!

Ok, one thing I've got to ask off the bat:

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Originally Posted by Nienna

Rikae--> Sally
Morm--> Form
Lommy--> Form
Alona--> No Vote
Nessa--> No Vote
Sally--> Morm
--Morm--Form
Autume--> Morm
--Rikae--Sally
Rikae --> Alona
Form--> Alona
Mac--> Alona
Nienna--> Morm
Morm--> Alona
Dury--> Alona
Nerwen--> Morm
--Sally-- Morm
Sally--> Morm

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Originally Posted by Nienna

Alona and Morm 5, No Vote 2, Form 1

Me, Form, Mac, Morm and Dury for Alona... that's 5. But only Sally, Autume, Nienna and Nerwen for Morm...? Did Nienna leave somebody's vote off, or was it really not a tie at all?

At any rate, if that Morm-wagon wasn't at least in part a wolf-driven Alona rescue attempt, I'll eat my keyboard. All the votes will need a careful look, but I'm too tired to do it now, sorry.

Mirandir · 08-18-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Me, Form, Mac, Morm and Dury for Alona... that's 5. But only Sally, Autume, Nienna and Nerwen for Morm...? Did Nienna leave somebody's vote off, or was it really not a tie at all?

I voted for morm as well. Apparently Nienna doesn't love me enough to include me.

Nienna · 08-18-2009, 09:28 PM

Eek. * Apologizes* Sorry Mira! The end of day was a little confusing and I was trying my best to keep up... but I am no Lari. There is an earlier count that was correct but then I some how managed to mess it up and with Sally retracting and then locking in it got a bit confusing.

Durelin · 08-18-2009, 09:30 PM

Shasta was a popular man it seems.

Nice job, mate.

Nienna · 08-18-2009, 09:31 PM

It is sad that Shasta, our valiant Ranger is now dead, but I'm happy we have finally nabbed a wolf and the wolves lost out on a kill. This is good news.

satansaloser2005 · 08-18-2009, 09:33 PM

Gonna analyze Nessa because, well, I want to. Back in a sec.

autume98 · 08-18-2009, 09:26 PM

It is a sad day for us villagers.

Shasta did a great deed by saving someone in the village. I just wish that he weren't dead.

mormegil · 08-18-2009, 09:34 PM

Well I must thank two people, the ranger, as I am almost certain I was the wolf's target last night and the head of Boro's coin.

According to Nienna's count here is the votes from yesterday

Rikae--> Sally
Morm--> Form
Lommy--> Form
Alona--> No Vote
Nessa--> No Vote
Sally--> Morm
--Morm--Form
Autume--> Morm
--Rikae--Sally
Rikae --> Alona
Form--> Alona
Mac--> Alona
Nienna--> Morm
Morm--> Alona
Dury--> Alona
Nerwen--> Morm
--Sally-- Morm
Sally--> Morm

Alona voters: Durelin, Morm, Mac, Form, Rikae
Morm voters: Sally, Nerwen, Nienna, Autume, Mira (somehow not included on this list but was on an earlier list)
No votes were Alona and Nessa

Very interesting the way it played out. I am very much inclined to believe Durelin, Mac and Rikae innocent with Form a possible bear suspect.

Somehow my suspicion of Sally was not lessened at all

. Alona no voted which is odd too but would another wolf go along with that? I doubt it, too obvious for me I would think and I'm not sure Nessa is that bold. I am thinking her a bit more innocent.

Did Lommy vote?

I would be content to focus most all the attention on the Morm voters from yesterday and keep an eye on Form.

Here is somewhat of a wild plan that may work. We have 12 remaining villagers, 3 gifteds, a cobbler, bear, two wolves and 5 ordos including me. If the 3 gifted came forward, but no revealing their role, this is for two reasons. 1. With the hunter still at large the wolves and bear will have to second guess which one to kill. 2. The cobbler may decide to join the ranks of the proclaimed gifteds. However, if this were to happen we would need to decide if we want to believe the claim at all before the gifteds reveal their true role. I think the cobbler would be very obvious if she tries to reveal herself (I'm thinking Sally first then Nerwen as likely candidates). Anyway that would give 3 solid innocents of 12, if I am assumed innocent because of Shasta's protection last night, I had hoped he would have survived to verify the claim. Anyway, I think it reasonable to assume the worst case for me would be that I am the bear, with this plan in place we could fairly quickly eliminate the wolves and bear. There would be 4 to 5 known innocents, depending upon who you are. For the 4 other ordos they will know that they are innocent, ergo 5.

What say ye? Too soon for this? It would be that 1/3 of the village would be known innocents and then I think it would be fairly easy to ferret out the guilty based on voting patterns etc...

EDIT: Crossed with everybody since Boro's last post.

mormegil · 08-18-2009, 09:37 PM

Oh, and on my plan I am primarily interested in hearing from those whom I believe innocent.

Durelin · 08-18-2009, 09:42 PM

...how do you know Shasta protected you and how are we supposed to know?

mormegil · 08-18-2009, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durelin

...how do you know Shasta protected you and how are we supposed to know?

You can't be certain Durelin, but assume for a moment I am not a wolf, would I be a likely wolf target?

satansaloser2005 · 08-18-2009, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mormegil

You can't be certain Durelin, but assume for a moment I am not a wolf, would I be a likely wolf target?

Why would the wolves kill someone who's been the topic of so much conversation (and lynching interest) recently? I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying that I'm not believing you're innocent just because you say you were attacked. For all I know they tried to kill me (although it'd be the same idea, and thus unlikely).

Finding all the Nessa posts now, and hopefully I'll get it out before I head for home.

Durelin · 08-18-2009, 10:02 PM

I would think any of the alona voters were likely targets last night, with considerations for targeting the ranger or the shirrifs and possibly avoiding the hunter.

But maybe the wolves really are convinced you're the bear.

Sally...cobbler?

Nienna and Lommy wolves?

Nerwen and Mira also bother me a lot.

But I'm ready to vote Morm for his gifted-reveal plan.

Formendacil · 08-18-2009, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mormegil

Oh, and on my plan I am primarily interested in hearing from those whom I believe innocent.

That's excellent.

It means I don't have to talk right now.

Actually, I'm only posting now to let it be known that, as with yesterDay, I'll be offline from now until about 4-5 hours before the Deadline. I assume I won't get distracted and start purchasing any expensive Tolkien books, but that would also have been my assumption yesterday, so...

Anyway, yeah... online in 18-19 hours.

Meanwhile, my only comment is that, had there been more of them, the No Voters would bear more watching, but it was only Alona and Nessa. Should probably look at Nessa just in case, though...

Okay, going to bed--unless something catches my eye on the way out.

Boromir88 · 08-18-2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mormegil

What say ye? Too soon for this? It would be that 1/3 of the village would be known innocents and then I think it would be fairly easy to ferret out the guilty based on voting patterns etc...

I say the shirriffs can't be known innocents at the same time. *points to rules*

mormegil · 08-18-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I say the shirriffs can't be known innocents at the same time. *points to rules*

Confounded man, you and your blasted rules, a pox on them! I failed to see that rule, it might be safe to assume I am not a BFF.

08-18-2009, 09:02 PM	#1
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	"grotesque beast"??? come now, must you be so cruel to me? __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

08-18-2009, 09:28 PM	#5
Nienna Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: School Posts: 642	Eek. * Apologizes* Sorry Mira! The end of day was a little confusing and I was trying my best to keep up... but I am no Lari. There is an earlier count that was correct but then I some how managed to mess it up and with Sally retracting and then locking in it got a bit confusing. __________________ Puddle! Puddle!

08-18-2009, 09:31 PM	#7
Nienna Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: School Posts: 642	It is sad that Shasta, our valiant Ranger is now dead, but I'm happy we have finally nabbed a wolf and the wolves lost out on a kill. This is good news. __________________ Puddle! Puddle!

08-18-2009, 09:33 PM	#8
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Gonna analyze Nessa because, well, I want to. Back in a sec. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

08-18-2009, 09:26 PM	#9
autume98 Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The other side of the fish bowl Posts: 267	It is a sad day for us villagers. Shasta did a great deed by saving someone in the village. I just wish that he weren't dead. __________________ The only thing to expect is the unexpected.

08-18-2009, 09:30 PM	#6
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Shasta was a popular man it seems. Nice job, mate.

08-18-2009, 09:34 PM	#10
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Well I must thank two people, the ranger, as I am almost certain I was the wolf's target last night and the head of Boro's coin. According to Nienna's count here is the votes from yesterday Rikae--> Sally Morm--> Form Lommy--> Form Alona--> No Vote Nessa--> No Vote Sally--> Morm --Morm--Form Autume--> Morm --Rikae--Sally Rikae --> Alona Form--> Alona Mac--> Alona Nienna--> Morm Morm--> Alona Dury--> Alona Nerwen--> Morm --Sally-- Morm Sally--> Morm Alona voters: Durelin, Morm, Mac, Form, Rikae Morm voters: Sally, Nerwen, Nienna, Autume, Mira (somehow not included on this list but was on an earlier list) No votes were Alona and Nessa Very interesting the way it played out. I am very much inclined to believe Durelin, Mac and Rikae innocent with Form a possible bear suspect. Somehow my suspicion of Sally was not lessened at all . Alona no voted which is odd too but would another wolf go along with that? I doubt it, too obvious for me I would think and I'm not sure Nessa is that bold. I am thinking her a bit more innocent. Did Lommy vote? I would be content to focus most all the attention on the Morm voters from yesterday and keep an eye on Form. Here is somewhat of a wild plan that may work. We have 12 remaining villagers, 3 gifteds, a cobbler, bear, two wolves and 5 ordos including me. If the 3 gifted came forward, but no revealing their role, this is for two reasons. 1. With the hunter still at large the wolves and bear will have to second guess which one to kill. 2. The cobbler may decide to join the ranks of the proclaimed gifteds. However, if this were to happen we would need to decide if we want to believe the claim at all before the gifteds reveal their true role. I think the cobbler would be very obvious if she tries to reveal herself (I'm thinking Sally first then Nerwen as likely candidates). Anyway that would give 3 solid innocents of 12, if I am assumed innocent because of Shasta's protection last night, I had hoped he would have survived to verify the claim. Anyway, I think it reasonable to assume the worst case for me would be that I am the bear, with this plan in place we could fairly quickly eliminate the wolves and bear. There would be 4 to 5 known innocents, depending upon who you are. For the 4 other ordos they will know that they are innocent, ergo 5. What say ye? Too soon for this? It would be that 1/3 of the village would be known innocents and then I think it would be fairly easy to ferret out the guilty based on voting patterns etc... EDIT: Crossed with everybody since Boro's last post. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

08-18-2009, 09:37 PM	#11
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Oh, and on my plan I am primarily interested in hearing from those whom I believe innocent. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

08-18-2009, 09:42 PM	#12
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	...how do you know Shasta protected you and how are we supposed to know?

08-18-2009, 10:02 PM	#15
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	I would think any of the alona voters were likely targets last night, with considerations for targeting the ranger or the shirrifs and possibly avoiding the hunter. But maybe the wolves really are convinced you're the bear. Sally...cobbler? Nienna and Lommy wolves? Nerwen and Mira also bother me a lot. But I'm ready to vote Morm for his gifted-reveal plan.

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