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Old 08-24-2009, 11:04 AM   #1
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Old 08-24-2009, 03:40 PM   #2
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Action movies have influenced me in curious & disturbing ways...

But the thing is - this doesn't just go for films. It goes for your parents, your friends, the people you see walking around on the street outside. At one point, such laws just veer off into absurdity, never to recover.
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I'm actually rather pleased to hear of such bans.

Mostly these days books and movies are regarded as insignificant or frivilous, all well and good to teach kiddies how to read and cypher in school, but best put away with the toys once one attains adulthood.

So, here is a group of concerned legislators--poets even if they are right about art -- who are worried that art might actually have some significant influence on minds. Scary thing!

Give me the censors any day over the naysayers.

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Anyway, for me, it was the TV movie, "V" that made me want to be a scientist, so that, when the aliens land, I'd be on to their reptilian ways.
Let's imagine just what influence a movie like "District 9" would have! And there's another PJ reference for this thread, to make this post slightly attenuated towards Tolkien.
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Old 08-27-2009, 09:33 AM   #4
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So, here is a group of concerned legislators--poets even if they are right about art -- who are worried that art might actually have some significant influence on minds. Scary thing!
We must live in a different world. Legislatures in this part of it seem to think that all evil comes directly from Hollywood.. except for campaign donations, that is.

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Not sure what you mean, unless you are indicating that resistance to art will make it stronger.

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Old 08-27-2009, 01:26 PM   #5
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We must live in a different world. Legislatures in this part of it seem to think that all evil comes directly from Hollywood.. except for campaign donations, that is.

Not sure what you mean, unless you are indicating that resistance to art will make it stronger.
I'd much rather have it feared than ignored as then the opportunity may provide occasion for public discussion of the role and nature of art in society. I wonder if any Liverpudlians made any protests to their counsil? Were there long lines of Middle-earth-clad fans protesting by lighting up outside the counsil chambers? Sadly, I bet not.

Note that I assume civil discourse is possible in the public sphere. I believe it was in The Shire, although possibly less so in Rohan and Gondor.


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I'd much rather have it feared than ignored as then the opportunity may provide occasion for public discussion of the role and nature of art in society. I wonder if any Liverpudlians made any protests to their counsil? Were there long lines of Middle-earth-clad fans protesting by lighting up outside the counsil chambers? Sadly, I bet not.
There've been protests, but not via Middle Earthians, as this is a broader issue and not limited just to one movie. Currently in the news there is a movement against another movie that involved a more adult topic.

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It's possible, though not probable. If 'sense' ruled the day, we wouldn't have anything to 'discourse' about, as the limits would be obvious, and nobody would care the Bilbo and Gandalf light up.
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