TIG: LXV - Our fate lies with...them?

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Durelin

Also I only started to distrust morm a bit because of his gifteds reveal plan, because it relied on the bear as well as the wolves fearing the hunter, while the bear did not have any reason to fear the hunter (as a Night kill), which seemed to be something many overlooked.

That was something I did overlook. However for what it is worth this was one point where I began to trust Mac, Rikae and you even more and other less. It accomplished some of my purposes, I was hoping to verify the Nerwen was the cobbler too but that didn't happen although I was certain of it at the end.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Hakon

I am not surprised that I got one fear and one distrust. I am just curious as to who said they could read me. I am surprised that Fea is more distrusted then Phantom.

phantom is actually very trust-worthy, especially so as a wolf. I'm not sure how he got the "distrust" label (the fear label is definitely understandable). My first game as a wolf, he was a fellow wolf, and he was just as candid as he was in this game as the Candor man.

Originally Posted by mormegil

That was something I did overlook. However for what it is worth this was one point where I began to trust Mac, Rikae and you even more and other less. It accomplished some of my purposes, I was hoping to verify the Nerwen was the cobbler too but that didn't happen although I was certain of it at the end.

In that one post when you laid out those you trusted and those you thought were guilty you were spot on. You trusted all the gifteds, and even if you pinned Form as a bear, you were still right about him. When you said you wished phantom was still alive because he would see the sense in what you were doing, we both thought you were going to fake a gifted reveal. Since you knew you were attacked by the wolves (though no one else did except them and the only person who could let everyone know was killed), and of course lynching you was a major mistake...almost on the same level as lynching the Seer. For, if you faked a gifted claim, you would be forcing the wolves to pick you again at night...thus providing protection for Mac, Rikae, and Durelin. The question though would be, would Mac, Rikae, and Durelin have gone along with it?

I mean obviously lynching the seer Day 1 is not a good start, but I still think the turning point was the day you were lynched. If you were not, and were trying to look gifted, the wolves would have most likely had to go after you, once they failed the night before. But as it happens you ended up lynched, and the wolves I believe that night chose Rikae, which turned the tide back in their favour. Oh and Mira picked Durelin, who couldn't have chosen Nienna, because she picked Nienna the night before. (Although I will point out Mira had no reason to fear the hunter, had Durelin had a wolf, despite being attacked by the bear, the wolf would have died with her )

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

When you said you wished phantom was still alive because he would see the sense in what you were doing, we both thought you were going to fake a gifted reveal. Since you knew you were attacked by the wolves (though no one else did except them and the only person who could let everyone know was killed), and of course lynching you was a major mistake...almost on the same level as lynching the Seer. For, if you faked a gifted claim, you would be forcing the wolves to pick you again at night...thus providing protection for Mac, Rikae, and Durelin. The question though would be, would Mac, Rikae, and Durelin have gone along with it?

I considered it but I feared being thought the cobbler at that point. With the cobbler in the game it would make it all the more difficult to pull it off.

[the phantom]

Ranger- you didn’t protect anyone the night I died! *pouts* I practically begged the baddies to kill me that night. I figured at the least they’d kill but an Ordo, but at best I would attract both the Bear and the WWs (cutting down the losses for the Night), or that the Ranger would shield me from the kill. Ah well… at least you saved Morm.

And Morm- (I see Boro has already mentioned this) when you were making your comments about the Gifteds on the day you died and saying that Phantom would agree with where you were headed- I actually thought you were about to falsely claim Gifted status in order to remove your name from the lynch board as well as seal your death that night (thus shielding the true Gifteds). I figured the true Gifteds wouldn’t have questioned you at all, seeing as they’d realize you were signing your death warrant for that Night with your claim, but I suppose you were worried about some Gifted not evaluating the situation carefully before rashly questioning your claim?

And just fyi Rikae, once you posted this on Day 2 -> “Well, I definitely don't think they're sheriffs, at any rate“ I never intended to vote for you after that point, but I still wanted you to look rather lynchable.

In addition, on Day 2 I truly did desire to see a tie in the voting (a three-way tie would’ve been excellent). Why? Well, my reasoning is more than slightly underhanded. Having modded WW games before, I know how strong a Mod’s desire is to see a good game (i.e. not a slaughter, but a balanced contest). Since we had lost our Seer already on Day 1, the good-guys were behind the 8-ball just a bit and so I figured if we could tie the voting score, if yet another Gifted happened to be on the chopping block, Boro’s coin would’ve somehow found a way not to kill the Gifted.

So yeah… I was banking on Moderator tweaking and betting that turning the lynch into a coin flip was the best way to avoid another disaster. Does that make me a cheater?

EDIT: Oh, and I forgot to mention. I got Wilwa. That means I win. Take that, baddies!

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by the phantom

I got Wilwa. That means I win. Take that, baddies!

[Lariren Shadow]

May I ask why I was not a wolf Wilwa?

Please?

[Macalaure]

Ouch, that morm-lynch was one of the worst moments I experienced in werewolf (almost right after an all-ordo-quadruple lynch that morm probably remembers, too). I mean, we could have avoided it, if only we would have been able to agree on which wolf to lynch first...

And I even made an analysis that gave me Form and Nienna as the most suspicious, but then the likelihood of Durelin picking Nienna and the sudden readiness of everyone to lynch Form made me mess everything up badly.

It was tough, though, when during one night all people I trusted died and those who were left were quiet or suspicious.

I'd also like to apologise to Inzil and Lommy, whose lynching bandwaggons I happened to start.

Originally Posted by Form

And after Mac has pegged exactly everything I'd done wolfishly since Day 2!

I guess I mistrusted my own judgement. That, and the fact that everyone agreed on lynching you - I just got the idea that you were being set up as an easy wolf scapegoat.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Btw, I believe the only baddie Mac didn't identify was Mira.

*sigh*

Actually, I did think she was strangely disconnected with the rest and said that she was a possible bear, but I strictly concentrated on wolves.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Lariren Shadow

May I ask why I was not a wolf Wilwa?

Please?

Well, Alona was the one chosen randomly, and since it was going to be her first time Boro and I decided to choose someone that was more experienced (Form) to balance it out. Then the third I wanted it to be someone that I had wolfed with in the past so that I could kinda guess at their strategy (just to make it more interesting for myself ), so that came down between Nerwen, Nienna, Durelin and Lommy (4 of them, me and Kath had all been ducks in Sally's game). We decided to go with Nienna, probably cause she was very sneaky when I wolfed with her.

And I'm pretty sure it was you that had barely ever been an ord and we figured you should give that a try, haha , though I may be mixing you up with someone else for that.