T-I-G LXVII: The Rangers of the North - The Fell Winter - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Macalaure · 09-22-2009, 02:22 PM

The nightguards basically work as village-elected ranger protections, so I think it would make most sense to vote for two people who are likely to be killed during the first night. This means we can rule out Loslote, Valier, and Roa, since they're either new or haven't played in a long time, so it wouldn't be very nice for them to be killed right away. Although there are exceptions, the most common Night2-kills are either trailless (most likely), or with the intention to get rid of a dangerous opponent early. The latter is very difficult to predict for us, without knowledge of the wolves' identity, but the former we have a bit of a chance. Villagers who are mostly unhelpful shouldn't be protected, though - why protect someone who has a fair chance of becoming a problem to us? People who appear trailless to us (though, admittedly, other people might look trailless to the wolves), but are helpful (or promise to become helpful later) should be our guards.

On Day1, I would suggest a similar strategy for the captain, with the most suspicious individuals excepted. We don’t necessarily need the most innocent or most helpful or most talkative person in this role (not yet at any rate). Just someone who knows what he’s doing.

Candidates, in my opinion, are: Inzil, Kath, Gwath, Brinn, and Fea. (Nienna and Sally belong in there, too, but I find them suspicious.)

I'm tending towards Kath for captain, Brinn for guard.

Wolves:
I have barely an idea. My only real opinion of anyone is that Rune is neither wolf nor gifted. A wolf wouldn’t be so obvious, a gifted not so eager to be something special. Cobbler or ordo.
This is the reason, why Sally’s bandwaggon vote on Roa’s vote for him looks suspicious to me. Nienna’s vote looks as bad, and she did several things that make my radar ping badly, but by now I know from experience that that’s what she does when she’s innocent. So Sally ranks higher right now.

I don’t understand why it’s a problem if the same person is captain and lynched. The captain has the power to cancel the lynch, doesn’t he? Problem solved. But if the mod rules it otherwise, ok.

Roa_Aoife · 09-22-2009, 02:27 PM

Captaincy:
Boro -> Rune
Sally -> Legate
Greenie -> Legate
Nerwen -> Roa
Valier -> Rune
Loslote -> Rune
Roa -> Legate
Rune-> Rune
Fea-> Roa
Iniz->Rune(5)
Nienna->Legate (4)
Lommy-> Roa(3)

NG:
Boro -> Inzil
Sally -> Valier
Inzil -> Boro
Roa -> Brinn
Nerwen -> Kath
Loslote -> Boro (2)
Rune -> Valier
Valier-> Roa
Fea-> Nienna
Nienna-> Roa(2)
Lommy-> Valier (3)

Lynch:
Rune-> Legate
Roa-> Rune
Nerwen-> Boro
Fea-> Hakon
Sally-> Rune
Nienna-> Rune (3)
Loslote-> Nienna

Mac, nice to see you. Keep in mind that the cobbler has the power to stop nightly activities, so even if Rune is a cobbler and not a wolf, it's better to get rid of him. It's definitely not a good idea for him to be captain in that case.

Roa_Aoife · 09-22-2009, 02:31 PM

Also, don't make a night guard, people. I'm too easy to lynch for the wolves to waste a kill on me. Put in someone who's trailless, like Brinn or Kath. Boro doesn't look likely to die either. If he's innocent, then he looks too suspicious to kill. Think about it.

Boromir88 · 09-22-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Also, don't make a night guard, people. I'm too easy to lynch for the wolves to waste a kill on me. Put in someone who's trailless, like Brinn or Kath. Boro doesn't look likely to die either. If he's innocent, then he looks too suspicious to kill. Think about it.

I might look suspicious, but I challenge any of the wolves to try to lynch me. If they actually succeed I will make them cost for it dearly. Anyway, I agree, don't NG me tonight.

Roa_Aoife · 09-22-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

I might look suspicious, but I challenge any of the wolves to try to lynch me. If they actually succeed I will make them cost for it dearly. Anyway, I agree, don't NG me tonight.

Wow, really? Are you trying to pull the "I'm hinting at being a gifted so don't lynch me" ploy for real? And if you are that gifted, isn't it better for us to lynch you so you can do your job?

Valier · 09-22-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa

Wow, really? Are you trying to pull the "I'm hinting at being a gifted so don't lynch me" ploy for real? And if you are that gifted, isn't it better for us to lynch you so you can do your job?

wow Roa you read my mind almost exactly...scary

Boromir88 · 09-22-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Wow, really? Are you trying to pull the "I'm hinting at being a gifted so don't lynch me" ploy for real? And if you are that gifted, isn't it better for us to lynch you so you can do your job?

No. I'm stating fact. It's always easiest for wolves to kill me at night. I would have Agan vouch for that, but she's not here, so maybe Greenie? Who, despite winning last as a wolf, wished the wolves killed me, because I'm less of a thorn. 1. I'm a pain and 2. it's near impossible to lynch me, even when I am looking suspicious and 3. if I am lynched, there is a grave cost to anyone who is involved in it.

Macalaure · 09-22-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa_Aoife

Mac, nice to see you. Keep in mind that the cobbler has the power to stop nightly activities, so even if Rune is a cobbler and not a wolf, it's better to get rid of him. It's definitely not a good idea for him to be captain in that case.

I haven't played with him in a long time, so I wouldn't vote for him on Day1 just because there's a chance he's the cobbler. I absolutely do not endorse him for captaincy either, though.

09-22-2009, 02:27 PM	#2
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Captaincy: Boro -> Rune Sally -> Legate Greenie -> Legate Nerwen -> Roa Valier -> Rune Loslote -> Rune Roa -> Legate Rune-> Rune Fea-> Roa Iniz->Rune(5) Nienna->Legate (4) Lommy-> Roa(3) NG: Boro -> Inzil Sally -> Valier Inzil -> Boro Roa -> Brinn Nerwen -> Kath Loslote -> Boro (2) Rune -> Valier Valier-> Roa Fea-> Nienna Nienna-> Roa(2) Lommy-> Valier (3) Lynch: Rune-> Legate Roa-> Rune Nerwen-> Boro Fea-> Hakon Sally-> Rune Nienna-> Rune (3) Loslote-> Nienna Mac, nice to see you. Keep in mind that the cobbler has the power to stop nightly activities, so even if Rune is a cobbler and not a wolf, it's better to get rid of him. It's definitely not a good idea for him to be captain in that case. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

09-22-2009, 02:31 PM	#3
Roa_Aoife Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Someday, I'll rule all of it. Posts: 1,696	Also, don't make a night guard, people. I'm too easy to lynch for the wolves to waste a kill on me. Put in someone who's trailless, like Brinn or Kath. Boro doesn't look likely to die either. If he's innocent, then he looks too suspicious to kill. Think about it. __________________ We can't all be Roas* when it comes to analysing...* -Lommy I didn't say you're evil, Roa, I said you're exasperating. -Nerwen

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09-22-2009, 02:22 PM	#1
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	The nightguards basically work as village-elected ranger protections, so I think it would make most sense to vote for two people who are likely to be killed during the first night. This means we can rule out Loslote, Valier, and Roa, since they're either new or haven't played in a long time, so it wouldn't be very nice for them to be killed right away. Although there are exceptions, the most common Night2-kills are either trailless (most likely), or with the intention to get rid of a dangerous opponent early. The latter is very difficult to predict for us, without knowledge of the wolves' identity, but the former we have a bit of a chance. Villagers who are mostly unhelpful shouldn't be protected, though - why protect someone who has a fair chance of becoming a problem to us? People who appear trailless to us (though, admittedly, other people might look trailless to the wolves), but are helpful (or promise to become helpful later) should be our guards. On Day1, I would suggest a similar strategy for the captain, with the most suspicious individuals excepted. We don’t necessarily need the most innocent or most helpful or most talkative person in this role (not yet at any rate). Just someone who knows what he’s doing. Candidates, in my opinion, are: Inzil, Kath, Gwath, Brinn, and Fea. (Nienna and Sally belong in there, too, but I find them suspicious.) I'm tending towards Kath for captain, Brinn for guard. Wolves: I have barely an idea. My only real opinion of anyone is that Rune is neither wolf nor gifted. A wolf wouldn’t be so obvious, a gifted not so eager to be something special. Cobbler or ordo. This is the reason, why Sally’s bandwaggon vote on Roa’s vote for him looks suspicious to me. Nienna’s vote looks as bad, and she did several things that make my radar ping badly, but by now I know from experience that that’s what she does when she’s innocent. So Sally ranks higher right now. I don’t understand why it’s a problem if the same person is captain and lynched. The captain has the power to cancel the lynch, doesn’t he? Problem solved. But if the mod rules it otherwise, ok.