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10-07-2009, 11:29 AM
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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11-19-2009, 05:38 PM
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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They both attended awesome parties thrown by relatives... I know it isn't right but I wanted to bump the thread
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11-19-2009, 06:06 PM
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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It indeed isn't
 But nice for you to bump the thread here. Perhaps somebody wants to try? We are talking Frodo and Nienor here. Focusing on Bilbo was a good move. From there, one can start unfolding it...
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11-20-2009, 03:24 PM
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Wight of the Old Forest
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This is really really far-fetched, but let's give it a try.
Both had an elder relative who gave a necklace from a dragon hoard to an elven king: Bilbo to Thranduil (his parting gift near the end of The Hobbit), Húrin to Thingol (the Nauglamír).
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11-20-2009, 04:00 PM
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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Ugh. No, that is maybe somewhat a bit too complicated.
What I am looking for has more something to do with their... social status, so to say.
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11-28-2009, 02:45 PM
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Wight
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But since then you've given us further hints: focus on those close to them, and "social status." Let me think a bit about it. Edit: They were both orphans and/or their fathers both drowned? (Nienor's father Húrin Thalion killed himself by throwing himself into the sea, her mother Morwen Eledhwen was lost in a dragon attack; Frodo's father Drogo Baggins drowned in a boating accident along with Frodo's mother Primula). Last edited by Mugwump; 11-28-2009 at 02:58 PM. Reason: Addendum |
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11-28-2009, 04:51 PM
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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Nope, not really, but good try nevertheless. Social status, yes, good focus. The family relations are also a good focus. But there is something else what I am looking for.
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