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Old 11-03-2009, 06:55 PM   #1
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Okay.

I don't like some buddying-ups around here and I find some rows somewhat fabricated.

Both these classes include Spm...

Also I think he is not reading people on even terms which always raises an eyebrow... and all that praise over someone saying that the wolves and the Bear are enemies who need to get rid of one another... is that news Saucie? Why praise Boro so many times for stating the obvious while others have been busy trying to get bad individuals caught?

But I will not vote for him as that is not enough to serve as a basis for a vote on Day1. But not knowing the future one needs to lay open his two cents.


That leaves me torn between two options.

Trying the odds with a submarine (which I would then call you others to vote as well) as the chances are best they ever can be in this game looking at the unhappy ratio we have.

Going against my conscience & will and voting for Greenie who I suspected and who retaliated like she just tried to get out of that with the "retaliatory move".

A short thought and then vote.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:05 PM   #2
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Why praise Boro so many times for stating the obvious while others have been busy trying to get bad individuals caught ...
Have you been neglecting to take your exaggeration medication again, Noggie? First Greenie and now me. Since when does a passing mention in a single post constitute praising someone "so many times"?

I need to vote and I am probably going to vote for Morsul for picking up on others' specious reasoning and using it to justify his vote. But first I need to go and work out how to do this highlighting of votes ...
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:30 PM   #3
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I may be off and on for the rest of the Day, but I can't guarantee it, so I'm going to vote now.

++SPM

For being overly defensive, claiming that he wasn't suspecting me for other people's action but continuously bringing up the idea that I was sowing seeds of doubt, and now this whole "but we're probably two innocents duking it out" looks like he's trying to backpedal after Pitch pointed out the possibility.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:06 PM   #5
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Also I think he is not reading people on even terms which always raises an eyebrow... and all that praise over someone saying that the wolves and the Bear are enemies who need to get rid of one another... is that news Saucie? Why praise Boro so many times for stating the obvious while others have been busy trying to get bad individuals caught?
Sometimes it's necessary to state the obvious.

Also when you get multiple people all discussing one topic that means statistically there's probably some villainy involved, which then gives us info to read through. I'm not saying we continue to rehash this same argument the next day and the next, but it's a good question to consider on Day 1, and seeing as many responded to it there's lots to look at.

The same goes for whether early posters are anxious wolves, or the entire confusion over the # of wolves and the good wolf...multiple people commented, now use it to try and find the most suspicious.

Edit: crossed with Sauce and Fea...ooh I better check to see if that DVRed or my roommate will kill me.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:22 PM   #7
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Have you been neglecting to take your exaggeration medication again, Noggie?
Oops... sorry guys...

Have you seen me not exaggerating things in ww - or elsewhere?

But to be honest you seem to be underplaying the thing saying it was a "passing mention"... how nicely phrased.


But with no good-enough candidate on Day1...

I have an impression of these people because of what they have posted / that they have posted substantially enough to give hints about what they think - or wish us to think.

Boro
Fea
Greenie
Hakon
Morsul
Nerwen
Pitchwife
Roa
Saucepan Man

So I can foresee I - or anyone else - is able to read them as the Days go by. And the more Days pass the easier it becomes (which is not to say it will become easy).

These people I have no idea about... (number of their posts after their names)

Brinn -1 (no idea but reasonable - points on Roa and Spm)
Inzil - 6 (what a failing on my side; this many posts and no idea)
Lari - 1 (no idea indeed)
Loslote 0 (where is she?)
McCaber -1 (was too keen to be nice to me, suspicious)
sally - 2 (I didn't like her two posts: showing a knowledgeable face but no input ehatsoever, trying to look nice, suspicious)
wilwa - 3 (no idea, but tend to think her readable later on)

Some may start posting in a Day or two - or even toDay. A tough call.

(I see what you people say about Morsul and even if I kind of agree with you I can see lynching him as an "easy way" as well)

But still looking at the numbers there should be at least two baddies in the latter department.
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:36 PM   #8
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Which one is the worst?

Self-consciously joking - with only two posts but overdoing it trying to look light = Sally

Buddying up - even with time constraints only saying two people are good (me and Fea) = McCaber

Ignoring the game but posting - posting once saying "I'm here" and "pineapple". = Lari

Not showing at all - an innocent and not interested or shying away big time? = Lottie


I'll go with

++ McCaber

He looks the worst to me.


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Old 11-03-2009, 08:03 PM   #9
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NO META GAME.

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Old 11-03-2009, 08:07 PM   #10
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Okay, sorry. The Internet broke down and we only just got it back now. But I should be here until deadline? Hope so...

So far, Morsul looks most suspicious. His logic has left me confused while I try to figure out what he could possibly mean, and then trying to figure out where he got it.

Hakon used meta-game reasoning. Ugh. Annoying. Moving on...

I don't think SPAM is Were. He seems genuine to me, but, of course, I could be wrong.

I haven't gotten read on Roa. I'll look at her soon.

I'll look at everyone else now...those are just the ones I've noticed so far in my admittedly quick read-through.

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Old 11-03-2009, 08:09 PM   #11
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Hmm. I had been seriously considering going for SPM toDay. I don't have great deal on him; mainly I thought his responses to Roa looked somewhat overblown at times.
I didn't much like Morsul's vote for him, though. That was completely out of left field to me, and it seemed, from what I can tell, to be entirely based on Nog saying SPM was a likely cobbler. Now Roa has followed suit. Her vote, at least, wasn't exactly a surprise.
McCaber I would certainly like to see more of. I know he can be a very accomplished submarine, and he's had an uncanny ability in the past to totally slip by me. I think he bears watching, but I don't see why I should vote for him just yet.
Pitch's vote for Boro came across as rather forced, and a way to avoid being associated with a band-wagon. Granted, Boro's comment about Sally being the most suspicious was a bit weak, but how was Pitch's justification for Boro any better?
Hakon is not worth a vote just yet, but if he insists on keeping up the meta-gaming, I may have to agree with the others that he ought to be lynched just for causing unnecessary confusion.
And Morsul? Again, his vote for SPM feels foul.

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Old 11-03-2009, 08:32 PM   #12
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Pitch's vote for Boro came across as rather forced, and a way to avoid being associated with a band-wagon. Granted, Boro's comment about Sally being the most suspicious was a bit weak, but how was Pitch's justification for Boro any better?
I meant out of all those who discussed the "early posters" that sally was the most suspicious of the bunch. Based on her stating she wanted to avoid the early posters are suspicious crap, but still being an early poster and saying nothing. I'm not making much of Pitch's vote, I will ask though, when does someone joking automatically mean we should ignore it and not find it suspicious? Are you not familiar with the evil jesters?

And if anyone is the most suspicious to me it is Morsul...although I'm wary about the people popping out to say the same. His vote seemed sudden and non-chalant, but how would a wolf-Morsul benefit by voting for an innocent-SpM? I mean if he was throwing a vote out of the blue...unless he was trying to cash-in on the Roa and Sauce battle.

I also have an unexplainable suspicious feeling towards Nogrod. I've only scanned the posts past #55, but his suspicions against Greenie make me wary. I've read Greenie horribly wrong before, but by Nogrod pointing out he's usually suspicious of Greenie, so maybe we should take it as a "pinch of salt" looks safe. Like he has picked someone he usually suspects and tells us we shouldn't think to0 much about it. I haven't read through his posts on Sauce and Roa yet.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:23 PM   #13
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I double <3s Mira's new sig.

at this point I'm just going to read down the page and comment as I go...

55-wilwa's looks ok, she brought an interesting point about the Lovers, but she doesn't have enough posts right now to form a more solid opinion beyond "ok."

66-Nog concludes Sauce is the cobbler. That is something I completely did not think about. There's a difference though between causing confusion because you can't figure out something the mod said and intentionally causing confusion for the sake of confusion (wow confusion was used way to much in that confusing sentence ). Also, would the cobbler say the bear should kill the wolves?

68- Is my computer crazy or did McCaber grey-out part of his post?

69- Nog's suspicion of Greenie looks better than what I thought about my previous scan. I am suspicious of Greenie because of some of her playful commments like her being "caught" as a wolf, and in #23 when she feels like she wants to do a list but won't because of the # of people who haven't posted (what about those who had?)

75- Greenie, your first posts were bear-focused...I wouldn't go so far as an obsession but you pointed out you had never been in a village with a bear and talked about the bear frequently early on.

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Alas, so true. I wonder if I shouldn't take my own suspicions seriously because I always suspect you. A pinch of salt, indeed.
Trying to convince Nogrod he shouldn't vote for you because he usually finds you suspicious?

79- Greenie votes Nog

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Old 11-03-2009, 09:30 PM   #14
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I've had a total of maybe 3 hours out of 24 to figure out who to vote for and I wasn't sure If I'd be back before the deadline because of my show...

I had to vote for someone based on the earliest posts that caused so much confusion about "Good" wolfs and the evidence placed by others I voted for SPM the vote was at best a 50-50 shot e was just in my opinion, the most suspicious out of those who had posted(When I voted).

I'm so Confused by Everyone thinking my vote was from left field?...

Sure my reasons weren't solid but then again day 1 not much to go on...
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