TIG LXIX: Meeting at the House of Usher

[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

Oh, and that reminds me. Roa, I take it that your admonishment to me as a forum moderator was part of the act (I hope it was), but I should point out that I have not been a mod here for over two years.

Of course it was. And I think the last time I played was about 2 years ago.

Hakon, someone just thought it would be funny to call him the SPAM man, and it caught on. That's all.

You may also see him referred to as Espiem. I'm not certain if that started from LMP, or if LMP got it from him.

[Roa_Aoife]

Oh, and I feel the need to point out that the first bandwagon didn't have a single wolf. ^_^

[Morsul the Dark]

Thanks "Friends"

[satansaloser2005]

*giggles*

Yay Pitch! That made my morning.

[The Saucepan Man]

I found it too difficult to edit our PMs, so here they are in their entirety. Feel free to peruse or skip as you see fit ...

Originally Posted by SpM

The Lover Speaks

Hi Fea.

Dearest heart, love of my life, my one and only, my soulmate etc etc.

Delighted to be teamed up with you. Should be interesting. We have quite different playing styles, I think, so hopefully they will compliment each other and stand us in good stead.

That said, I think that we have quite a difficult task ahead of us if we are to stand any chance of victory. It’s going to be tricky keeping both of us alive until the end, particularly while both Wolves and Bear are operating at Night. On the other hand, if we do manage to avoid them, two kills per Night could work in our favour as, the earlier the game ends, the better chance we have of winning.

I haven’t got much in the way of strategy worked out at this stage. I figured that I would just approach Day 1 as I normally would as an innocent. As the game progresses, I think that we will want to favour whichever team is gaining the upper hand as, again, the swifter the end, the better our chances. But for now, the best that we can do, I think, is to keep our eyes open and share any insights that we get.

Let me know your thoughts.

Oh, and just so you know, I will have to vote by 1am GMT at the latest, which I think is about 4 hours before the deadline.

Cheers

~SpL~

Originally Posted by Fea

Re: The Lover Speaks

It's mutual.

As my lover, you have every right to know how I got roped into this game: Nienna promised me that I could emulate Poe at all turns and play strictly to amuse her and Mira.

Of course now that they've gone and given me a role, I shall do exactly what I'd planned on doing (draw attention to myself; wax poetic; be emo), but I shall do it with the knowledge that hopefully being the center of attention keeps me alive (seer ought to dream of me; it's tradition. Wolves and bear don't kill someone that might get themselves lynched...).

I'll be around at deadline, most likely, however I won't be around for the first half of any given day. Like today, when I had time to check PMs, but don't have time to check the thread until later (possibly much later).

With love,
me

Originally Posted by Fea

As you can see, Lover dear-

I've made good on my promise to arrive with a bang.

Do you have any for realsies thoughts on people?

I always find myself wanting to lynch Morsul on principle, because his logic tends to be off in ways that always seem really intentional. And I can never be sure if he just missed a few logic or math lessons, or if he's trying to sow confusion.

It doesn't really matter to me who dies during the day, as long as it isn't one of us. While a shorter game does have its practicalities, the threat of the Bear is pretty high, since bears can kill anyone without leaving any real trail. They need not worry about what it will 'look like.'

Still, they're hard to track, so I don't really propose going out and trying to find one. But I won't be sad if the village stumbles across ours by accident.

Originally Posted by SpM

Re: As you can see, Lover dear-

Dearest Snookums

Indeed, and with some style. Bravo!

No, not yet. My suspicions are very much as expressed on the thread. I always mistrust Roa on principle but that's probably just me. I have no particular view on Morsul but it's only his second game and he's still getting to grips with what's what, I think.

Agree with all of this. Our main priority at the moment is keeping ourselves and each other alive. I seem inadvertently to have improved my chances by drawing attention to myself with this 'friendly Wolf' fiasco (which was a genuine misunderstanding). I see Nogrod thinks that I may be the Cobbler as a result of this, and I see no reason to disabuse him of that notion - it may help keep the Wolves from my door.

Got to go now, but I'll be back in around 2 hours.

Love and smoochiness etc

~Sauciekins~

Originally Posted by Fea

Re: As you can see, Lover dear-

It's not just you. I just tend to feel bad always going after the same people just because I never trust them. Mostly because it bugs me that people go after me on principle instead of because I've done anything.

I was so confused! I went through the admin thread post by post trying to figure out if there was a Friendly Wolf I didn't know about, then I called the mods.

I think I'll finish a series of drawings and then pretend like I've been gone doing things if anybody asks why I haven't posted more. Real reason? Nothing I care to post about since there hasn't been much since I posted.

Huggles and suggestive winks,

-me

Originally Posted by SpM

Re: As you can see, Lover dear-

Dearest darling etc

Not a lot of time, as I have to vote soon and then retire for the night.

Roa is getting on my nerves and my argument with her is drawing far more attention to me than I would like. But I can't resist rising to the bait. I like a good argument, me.

Sorry if it gets me lynched. Perhaps you might look into killing Roa for me if it does.

I am most probably going to vote for Morsul. I think that there is a justifiable basis for doing so and what he did was rather Wolfish. With four Wolves, bagging one toDay would probably be to our advantage.

Love etc

~Saucikins~

Originally Posted by Fea

Re: As you can see, Lover dear-

I shall kill whoever it seems will most cripple the village with their loss. I'm like that.

I'll be voting either Morsul or Hakon, due to their inherently flawed logic. Hakon blatantly ignoring the 'no meta' rule, and Morsul forcing me to give an impromptu probability lesson when I'd rather be coloring.

Though if I need to save you, obviously I will.

Love and nuzzles,

Pookie

Originally Posted by SpM

Re: As you can see, Lover dear-

Dearest Pookie

Fair enough.

If we both vote for Morsul and he is lynched and turns out to be a Wolf, that would be good. He probably isn't, though. Merely a n00b.

Appreciated.

Is it just me or are Roa and Noggie both being wilfully obtuse? I suspect that Roa is just being her usual aggressive self (although she would be a formidable Bear). Nogrod's uncharacteristic aggressiveness makes me wonder about him.

I am very wary of Pitchwife at the moment. I suspect that he may be a Wolf, as he is acting just how I would expect a Wolf to act on Day 1. Then again, my early Wolf suspects usually turn out to be Seers ...

I have had some thoughts about possibly declaring at some point and trying to make a deal with one side or the other, while using the revenge kill as a threat against anyone who might threaten us. I checked with Nienna before the game, and we can share victory with either the Wolves or the Village. While the Bear's alive, however, there is little sense in doing so as we cannot share the victory with him and so will be unable to strike a deal with him. If the Bear gets killed though, it might be something worth thinking about.

Love etc

~Sauciekins~

Originally Posted by Fea

Re: As you can see, Lover dear-

Roa always seems to be willfully obtuse. And every time I try to pin Nog's role, I'm wrong about him. Seriously, every time.

I'll have to go with your instinct on that, since I didn't really get anything from him. Then again, since we have a more or less 'neutral' opinion about the other players, I'm not specifically looking. I usually give it a Day and then do a massive amount of note taking.

This is an interesting idea. Let's hold onto this. I'd be perfectly willing to try a coup, but the timing would have to be right.

Batted eyelashes and strappy heels,

Fee Fee

[The Saucepan Man]

Continuing the series of soppy love notes ...

Originally Posted by SpM

Lover dearest

Dear Foo Foo

Quite a good Night for us I think. Two Gifteds and a Bear out of the way. It’s great for us, I think, that the Wolves got the Bear, since it massively reduces the prospects of one of us dying at Night and also opens up the possibility for us to reveal (of which more below). Sorry to see Boro go though.

With the Wolves currently in the ascendancy, I think that our best tactic, for toDay at least, may be to try to get another innocent lynched (not one of us, obviously). I still haven’t got any clear picture of who is who, but I am thinking that the Wolves may be Nogrod, Loslote, one of Lari or sally, and one other. Possibly Pitch. Not at all sure at this stage though.

I see that the idea of me being the Cobbler has come up again. This is to be encouraged, as most Villagers are far keener on lynching Wolf suspects than Cobbler suspects and it may help me to avoid the Wolves at Night.

With regard to the prospect of revealing, this will become a very viable tactic with the death of only a few more innocents. There are currently 14 villagers. If an innocent is lynched toDay, then there will be 12 tomorrow. Assuming that we both survive the Night then, together with the Wolves and the Cobbler, we would form an unbeatable voting block of 7 versus 5. The question of whether it would work depends upon whether the Wolves are gamblers. They could gamble on winning alone and risk killing one of us or take the safe course of siding with us and sharing the victory.

For now, however, I don’t think that there is any sense in us revealing unless one of us is in very serious danger of being lynched. As I will not be there at the deadline, that may be something that you wil have to judge.

What do you think?

Love etc

Snugglepuss

Originally Posted by Fea

Re: Lover dearest

Couldn't have planned it better.

Frankly, I'd enjoy teaming up with the wolves for a co-victory strictly because it would be fun to watch the village squirm helplessly. And I always do so prefer to be a manipulative baddie in these games... It's more fun when you need not worry about anybody but yourself.

Originally Posted by Fea

Snookums-

Now normally I wouldn't dream of taking over your assumed role of cobbler, but

1) if the village thinks I'm the cobbler, they'll leave me alone

2) if the wolves think I'm the cobbler, they'll leave me alone

3) if they can't figure out which of us is the cobbler, we have nothing to fear from the wolves, and the village, without a clear target, is more easily manipulated.

Besides: Roa told me I wasn't cute.

Originally Posted by SpM

Fee Fee Dearest

Hush now, of course you're cute.

I don't see any harm in you putting yourself forward as a competing Cobbler candidate. If the Wolves see us both as potential Cobblers, then that can only be to our advantage. I see that you have been attracting a bit of suspicion yourself, which is good as long as it doesn't gather too much of a head. I am rather disappointed in a way that all the suspicion of me that was around yesterDay has somewhat evaporated. It increases the chances of the Wolves coming after me toNight.

I have no idea who to vote for at the moment. Porbably one of Greenie, McCaber, sally or Lottie, as my sstated supicions have been heading in their direction. Problem is, I think that one of sally or Lari probably is a Wolf. But it might look opportunistic to jump on the gathering suspicion of Greenie and McCaber. Anyway, I'll hang around for a bit and see what develops.

On possibly revealing toMorrow, I think that we should consider it if there are 5 baddies and 5 goodies (and us), as we would hold the balance of power and be able to deliver the Wolves a win. It's risky as we would leave ourselves open if the Wolves wanted to go for the sole victory, or (as Nogrod might) thought it unsporting. Problem is, I am not going to be around much toMorrow. I will only be around early in the Day and then later, at about this time.

What do you think?

Love etc

~Snookums~

Originally Posted by Fea

Re: Fee Fee Dearest

Why thank you, dear.

That makes two of us. I had to start talking after Pitch pointed out the flaw of my acrostic argument. Of course it's not like it wasn't intentional... Anybody who believed what I said about not being able to expose my opinions because they don't rhyme easily clearly didn't notice the fact that I explained this in standard verse, using an acrostic that spelled out "Why I'm not a wolf." Including the apostrophe!

But having to talk meant having to think fast, and just because I want to lynch the so-called reindeer doesn't mean I think they're evil it just means I think they're less able to be manipulated due to inactivity. And I don't want to kill an actual wolf or the cobbler if we're going to want their numbers later.

It's not unsporting if only due to the fact that I said point blank in one of my posts that the Lovers might not have the village's best interest in mind. I consider that revelation to be fair warning, and I consider Roa's brush off of the Lovers not being a threat as a dare.

I'm not sure if I'll be around at all, actually. I'm trying very hard not to be, but there's been an unexpected shuffling of vehicles in my household and the odds of borrowing Dad's car are significantly worse than the odds of borrowing Mom's. However Mom's car needs new tires (particularly since it started snowing... tonight...), which Dad (who fixes cars) will be putting on... on the day I want to borrow a car... While Mom drives Dad's car to work...

So ideally, I'll be around only from about seven hours after Day starts, then in the hours leading up to deadline. But all the middle ones, I hope to be missing in action. Except for the fact that Dad's really uptight about his car. So I might be around all day.

Ah, my lack of car and my inconvenient location in the back end of nowhere...

Love and rose petals,

Pookie

Originally Posted by SpM

Re: Fee Fee Dearest

I didn't notice but I hope one of the Wolves does. Its very Cobbleresque. And brilliant too.

Ditto. I went for Greenie. She could be a Wolf, but I thought on balance not. Nogrod looks more Wolfish to me at the moment. Roa, I am fairly sure, is innocent.

Yes, I noticed that. Fair point. So, let's play it by ear. But, if we get the chance, it may well be worth going for. We can plan it together during the Day if necessary. Provided, of course, that we are both around at the same time. Which is likely, I think, as I should be around a few hours before the deadline.

Love etc

~Snookums~

Originally Posted by Fea

Oh Lover Boy!-

Can you hear me, lover boy?

Mistress Moddess Stick requests that if you have the PMs I've sent you, don't delete them, since she'd very much love to read our correspondence post-game.

[The Saucepan Man]

The Day of the big reveal ...

Originally Posted by SpM

Oh Lover Girl

Yes, I have been saving them in a Word document in case I needed to refer back to anything, and also in case anyone was interested in reading them post game.

I really do not have much time now, I am afraid. I have just posted and tried to draw some pressure of you, but I am afraid that you are likely to be in the firing line toDay. The Wolves are likely to be stirring up suspicion of you. I should be back about 6 hours before the dealine.

On revealing - Although it is open to us now, I am wary because I think that the Wolves will be feeling in a strong position and are unlikely to go for it. That said, we should certainly reveal if either of us is looking likely to be lynched. I will leave it to you to judge if that becomes a possibility while I am away, but I will obviously support you when I return.

Best of luck.

Love etc

~Snooklepan Man~

Originally Posted by Fea

Coup.

I'd like to try it. But I think it would go better if you suggested it, as the senior member of our little love pairing.

Originally Posted by Fea

Lover boy,

You officially rock my world for that post. I particularly like when you tell Roa that I'm cute.

Originally Posted by SpM

Re: Lover girl,

You are most welcome. I rather enjoyed the drama of it myself.

I think that we should just string things along for a while now and see where the reactions go. Towards the end of the Day, once a few votes have been cast, and provided that neither of us are in line to be lynched, I plan on trying to make a deal with the Wolves by suggesting that, if they leave us alone toNight, we will vote with them toMorrow (and thereby win together). But I don't want to do that just yet, in case the innocents take it into their heads to vote for us.

I am going to try to stick around to the end of toDay - even though it will be 5am my time.

Love etc

~Saucikins~

Originally Posted by Fea

Re: Lover girl,

We're quite the evil pair, aren't we? I think we deserve congratulations. Almost a pair of werebears, us.

Yes, I'm clearly just being mean now.

I'll leave it to you.

Your dedication assures me our love will last forever and ever and ever.

I'll be up too.

Doves and starlight and champagne kisses,

Fiffy

Originally Posted by SpM

Wolf spotting

Dearest Fiffy

I think that it is in our best interests for an Innocent to be lynched, so we should look to vote accordingly.

I am thinking that Loslote is quite possibly a Wolf and that Nogrod may be too. I also think that either Inzil or Pitch is a Wolf.

McCaber I think may be innocent. And I am pretty sure that Roa is innocent. Her fit of pique at our comments suggests as much. I don't think that she would have reacted in the way she did, were she a Wolf.

What do you think?

Love etc

~Saucikins~

Originally Posted by Fea

Re: Wolf spotting

It will certainly provide the most amusement for us and the mods...

I concur.

I would be extremely surprised if Roa was a wolf after her vote for me. McCaber, I don't actually know.

Originally Posted by SpM

Re: Wolf spotting

Dearest Pookie

I put a vote down for Roa to see if I can encourage any more out. I can always change it if necessary.

I'm thinking McCaber innocent because he seems to be the 'fall guy' who has acted suspiciously and been seized upon by the Wolves for it.

It looks pretty likely that you would have been lynched toDay but for our reveal, so I think that we did the right thing whatever happens.

And anyway, I'm quite enjoying it. It's a bit like Bonnie and Clyde or something ...

Love etc

~Saucikins~

Originally Posted by Fea

Re: Wolf spotting

I saw that. Our lupine buddies must be dying right about now, trying to figure out what to do.

I briefly considered voting pro-villager if we could draw out wolves, but I really didn't think any wolves would be stupid enough to clearly state their affiliation in case we were bluffing.

Well they've gotta have someone, since I'm obviously off limits now.

I concur.

Actually, this might be the most fun I've ever had playing werewolf.

Originally Posted by SpM

Re: Wolf spotting

Oh, sally's vote for Roa is interesting. Perhaps she's a Wolf, in which case killing Lari was a bold move.

Brinniel looks innocent to me for that analysis of us - it looks to have been done from an innocent perspective.

I don't think that there is any need to offer any deal any more. The options should be pretty clear to the Wolves now. And I am glad that Nog mentioned that the Ranger might consider protecting one of us in the unfortunate event that a Wolf is lynched toDay.

Love etc

~SpL~

Originally Posted by Fea

Re: Wolf spotting

I'm not certain just now who to vote for. Roa, d'you think?

Poor sleepy darling, I hope this is worth it.

Originally Posted by SpM

Re: Wolf spotting

The only innocent that I am pretty confident about is Roa. I think that McCaber is innocent but can't be sure.

I would suggest voting Roa, but not just yet in case it gives a clue that we think her innocent. Can you hold your vote 'til the last minute?

I have gone through the sleepy phase. I am enjoying this far too much to go to bed.

Love etc

~Snookums~

Originally Posted by Fea

Re: Wolf spotting

Certainly.

Yes... I believe we're the first lovers to tell the innocent villagers to get stuffed... It's an event not to be missed.

Originally Posted by SpM

Before Night falls ...

It looks to me that there is a strong chance of at least one Wolf being among the McCaber voters, which woud suggest his innocence. Good.

Let's hope the Wolves see sense and leave us alone toNight ...

Love etc
~Sauciekins~

Originally Posted by Fea

Re: Before Night falls ...

True that.

<3

Good grief. Amazing how off-beam my speculations were on this Day. In my defence, I was relying on alcohol to keep me awake through the early hours ...