Werewolf LXXII: Now There's the Truth of It! (Game Thread)

[Loslote]

#5: Night banter.

#8: Oops, it's Night.

#46: Explaination for Night posting.

#48: Explains game rules and concludes that everyone will want to seem helpful because of them. Notes that it'll be harder for submarine wolves, and that everyone will be trying to act like a wolf.

#54: Doesn't really commit to Pitchie's suggestion to kill crazy and confusing people; agrees (to an extent) with Nienna's point that a wolf!Simon wouldn't be disasterous now but worries about later.

#60, #65, #69, #72, #77,#82, and #85 are all debating with Nog about suspecting vs. trusting. I don't know about anyone else, but I found that annoying to read through the first time (when I thought dl was fast approaching and was trying to get caught up) and extremely suspicious the next few times. Steve explains his earlier posts; qualifies his earlier posts; and flip-flops a lot, all the while arguing with Nog.

Then, in #91, he reminds Glirdy to highlight his vote.

In #95, he flip-flops about the Simony (should we elect someone we are unsure about as Simon) before deciding that purposefully electing someone is impractical.

#104 is a rule-quoting for The Phantom.

#118 is a list. Lottie's Cliff Notes: He suspects Nienna because she "seems to be agreeing lot rather than making any new points." <-*coughdidyoureadherpostsatallcough*. He says that Nog "makes some good points." <- which, the ones you've been arguing with for most of your posts? He says that Pitchie looks "innocent who just overdid it a bit on the non-"Nog-quasi-voting" front." <- HE overdid it? He also has no one in the definite "trust" or "suspect" categories, but that looks almost more innocent than evil. Other than that, the list looks sound.

#121: more Phantom banter.

#132: notes the silence and says he might vote soon.

#142: comment on Alona's post/vote count.

#151: votes Brinn and Wilwa.

#157: votes Nog.

And finally, in #190: votes Izzy "because Gwath seems more suspicious."

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Steve remains at the top of my suspect list.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Nice to know I'm not just silly and someone else noticed it, too...she does talk about/to him a lot, doesn't she? You'd almost think she was a seer and dreamed him...maybe that's why the wolves killed her, thinking she *was* the seer. Huh.

Could be. I'd say we can perhaps take that as evidence (okay, not proof) of Nog's innocence.

Originally Posted by Glirdan

I am also re-evaluating my thoughts on Form as that is two known innocents who put their trust into him. I think for now he is in my unsure list.

Hmmn. I'm not sure that a couple of innocents trusting someone on Day One means all that much. It's not like they knew anything. Not that I particularly suspect Form– I'm just saying, I'm surprised you find it that significant.

Originally Posted by Loslote

Unsure, lean evil:
?Brinn
Formy
Izzy

Suspect:
Steve
Rune

Now, why Brinn and Izzy? Also, why Rune? Because of the way he acted near DL yesterDay?

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Lottie's Eönalysis

#54: Doesn't really commit to Pitchie's suggestion to kill crazy and confusing people

For the record, I was in fact suggesting the opposite thing: to vote those people, but not to lynch but to keep - based on the consideration that the Wolves would need even more to appear helpful and trustworthy in this game than usual. It wasn't really a dead serious suggestion, more a thought experiment, hence the question-mark. (Anyway, I know ingrained thinking-habits die hard, so I'm not making much of this misrepresentation.)

I don't quite get where all this wave of trust in Nog comes from. As Nerwen just said concerning Form, it's not like our deceased innocents knew anything, they could have been just as mistaken as everybody else. Nog started out making some good points yesterDay, but I don't like how he used my disagreement about a minor technical point (introduction of marked lynch votes) as the starting point for big-time suspicion that almost succeeded in getting me lynched. And I don't at all like the way he acts like he knows what is best for us all and everybody who dares to disagree is working against the common good, hence wolvish. (Yeah, that's what the phantom said to do, but since when has going by anybody's book, even the phantom's, been a hallmark of genius? Or innocence, for that matter.)
Nothing of this is really new, of course, it's just getting on my nerves a bit more than usual. Especially as I don't really disagree with any of his substantial points - yes, of course we've got to catch Wolves, of course we should suspect people, of course we need to get the Wolves lynched; thanks for reminding us all that this is a Werewolf game, I'm sure some people had quite forgotten that. I don't think anybody was seriously debating that, it's just that we've got to handle the matter a little differently than we normally do. End of discussion.
And now I've got this out of my system, time for some thinking.