Werewolf LXXII: Now There's the Truth of It! (Game Thread)

[satansaloser2005]

To my wolves:

Mira. Girl, you need to stop dying early! I was really upset when you guys sent Nienna in because I knew you’d die too. Rubbish, that. Still, it was fun while it lasted.

Glirdan. Again, was so mad when you died because you really shouldn’t have (or at least shouldn’t have died by as large a margin as you did). But you were super fun and entertained me to no end. And survived past Day One! A bonus! (And your narration is coming, I promise!)

Nog. As always, your little “Oh Miss Moddess” PMs brightened my day and never failed to make me either giggle at how ridiculous you were being or gasp at how accurate you were. I was quite upset you got dreamed because you were doing amazingly well. Good job, dear!

Steve-O. Because I kept calling you that while planning, though I’m not sure why. You poor things had horrid luck and for you to be the last wolf standing had to be tough. But you took it with dignity and managed to have quite the good time. May have had a slip or two but overall a fantastic performance and I’m very glad I had you in the pack.

Lottie. Unluckiest. Wolf. Ever. Seriously, though, when Nog and Steve sent in the kill I’m fairly sure they thought you were the seer or something (if I remember incorrectly I’m more than happy to have them set me straight) and I about died of giggles. Then when I added you to the pack you were dreamt the same Night! Gah! Your parodies made me chuckle though and you were a great addition to a doomed yet fabulous wolf team. Kudos my wolf cub!


To my ordos:

Gwath. Aaaand you get lynched early. Gah, ridiculous. I considered putting an injunction on it like my last game but decided it wasn’t fair so alas you had to go. I wish you could have played longer!

Pitch. And you complained about this not being interesting! Pfffft. Sad to see you go so soon, but you were a great part of the village and I’m ever so happy you were able to enjoy yourself post mortem.

Brinn. Again, I was sad to see you go, but I know you were busy so perhaps it was for the best? Still, I’m glad you agreed to play and you did a splendid job despite your commitments. ^_^

Form. Heh. I talked you into playing. Neener neener. Erm, I mean thanks? Hehe I am glad you played though, and apart from the whoopsie with killing Pitch you played quite well despite being so bloody busy. *snuggles you despite your protest....but not under a blanket because....no way lol*

Rune. A very fine show, my friend. Lol I loved watching you try to sort out things when I clearly had such evil plans afoot. Very nice job helping catch the wolves, and kudos!

Izzy. Is it weird that despite knowing the roles I kept thinking you were a gifted of some sort? You played spectacularly well and I was very sad to see you go during the Massacre. Good job!


To my gifteds:

Nienna. Fabulous job! But poo on you for dying so early and not letting me have fun. Sorry I was so mean with my secrets, but I quite enjoyed watching you squirm while I tortured the living. But hey, you got your dead participation so you should be happy. Yay for you playing!

Dun. Fantastic, absolutely fantastic job with your rangering. I know you didn’t make every save but you made the one that made a huge difference and you were a real asset to the village. Kudos to you on a winning performance!

Nerwen. Like I said, stop being such a bloody rockstar. Lol I was seriously getting frustrated with you because of how good you were at your role; you kept dreaming my wolves and before long I had none left! I think it’s safe to say you may be one of the best seers of all time.


Which brings me to....


To my special roles:

(Note: What do you mean Wilwa’s not been mentioned yet? Why would that happen? Gasp!)

Wilwa. My One-Hit-Wonder who never blossomed into her potential. I kept hoping you’d be the kill so you could unleash your gift but until then I wanted you to think you were just an ordo so that if they did attack you you could lie low; I know you were capable of such deception and would thoroughly enjoy it. Still, you performed beautifully and I’m stoked you played because you brightened up the village and made the game a ton of fun!

Fea. Giddy aunt, you deserve a whole train car full of cookies for this! I thought you might slip eventually or that someone would guess but no, you pulled it off mostly without a hitch! Of course people had nigglings and I had a couple questioning PMs but for the most part people hadn’t a clue! To juggle all that is amazing, and for that I bow to you, my little Prima Donna. Long live the Village Prostitute!


To my co-mods and assorted helpers:

Shasta. *snuggles her sweet co-mod* Thank you SO much for helping out. I know I handled most of the actual game play but talking through a lot of the game elements with you made all the difference in the world and made the game the (hopefully!) success that it was. Thankies!

Alona. You were absolutely vital to this game. Without you I’d have stayed up for hours after the DL counting votes and double checking my work, but with you around I just had to wait for a handy dandy Alona post and my work was done. That and you acted as co-mod on a couple occasions and were just generally fantastic. I bloody love you. ^_^

Phantom. Heh. Heh. You know why I’m laughing. Also, nice heckling!

Duck. Thanks so much for helping out a frantic!netless!Sally on more than one occasion. I loves me a duck and you’s the duck I love! *snuggles*

The Council. You know who you are. Your opinions on post-wolf Night matters made quite a difference in the game. Thanks so much for agreeing to help out and for being so fair with your responses. Oh, and don’t worry, I don’t plan to tell anyone who you are (although you’re welcome to identify yourself if you like) or who you voted for, so don’t fret that someone’s going to show up at your door with a meat cleaver or a wet pool noodle or something.


To everyone:

*SNUGGLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

[wilwarin538]

Wilwa. My One-Hit-Wonder who never blossomed into her potential. I kept hoping you’d be the kill so you could unleash your gift but until then I wanted you to think you were just an ordo so that if they did attack you you could lie low; I know you were capable of such deception and would thoroughly enjoy it. Still, you performed beautifully and I’m stoked you played because you brightened up the village and made the game a ton of fun!

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just knew I was, I did I did. Well, I didn't *know*, but I had a psychic inkling.

Why on earth didn't you guys kill me!?!? haha


Sally. This made me very happy. *snuggles*

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

If I could request some variety of cheesy biscuit alternative to a traditional cookie, that would appeal to my desires more than a sugar high...

*nuzzles moddess*

[Loslote]

Re: My, my...

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1. Don't worry. I remember my first time being a wolf. Just act natural.

2. I don't know about that. If you can get three votes, it'll be enough.

3. Hmm... One of us will probably die soon. I think we should try to distance ourselves from each other because at least then the other one will survive.

4. To be honest, we thought you were the seer. The song about me looked very much like a seer hint. Very much. We also thought Wilwa, Brinn and Fea were possible seers.

5. See next bit

Looking who people voted for, I think Brinn, Form or Nerwen are good options. Izzy too.

I agree with you about Zil, but I'd like to keep him because he trusts me. Fea also, and I don't really want to kill her anyway.

Since the beginning I've had a strong feeling that we should kill Brinn, but something's always got in the way of that, so that's who I want to kill. Izzy would also be a good option, as she's very dangerous when innocent (she's actually quite good as a wolf as well).

...and...

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Also Nerwen. I forgot her.

I don't know about Izzy because if we kill her it might lead to you, but if we don't, she might come up with a good enough case to get you killed toMorrow.

Re: Voting

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Okay, I'm back...and I really want Fea gone. If she is the seer, I'm dead. No questions why she would dream me, please, Sally has forbidden me to tell you. (<not that that wouldn't give you a hint...) I think she already knows I'm a cobbler at best, and she came up with the Cursed theory, so she might very well dream me...in which case seer!Fea would be a Bad Thing...
I will try to distance myself. Do you want me to try and get you killed or just not mention you? I think I'd go for an in-between "not really mention but hightly suspect"...right? Sorry, newbie!wolf...

The Downs wasn't working, so I sent in Fea's name to Sally via Facebook about fifteen minutes ago, but I told her that if you'd done the same thing, to go with your choice. I don't know which provisional choice she'll go with, but I'm happy with either - Brinn is a good person to have gone, I can never deal well with her. I'll leave it to Miss Moddess's confusion.

But who would vote for me? Right now I'm probably suspect #1 for most people...we'll see what happens.

Good luck for toDay. Hopefully talk to you again tomorrow Night.

...And Downs are still being silly. If I sent you two copies, sorry.

Basically, I got on an hour and a half before dl and found that the Downs were, well, down. Quite frankly, I paniced. I sent Sally a Facebook message telling her to kill Fea if I couldn't get on and if Steve hadn't sent anything in, either. I got on the Downs about fifteen minutes later, and was finally able to send the pm without losing Downs awhile after that. I didn't change anything. Steve's pm had said to kill Brinn unless I changed it, so I didn't know who was going to die. Sally didn't get my Facebook message until after she posted that Brinn had died, so there wasn't even any confusion.

But still...hectic Night.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by sally

Nog. As always, your little “Oh Miss Moddess” PMs brightened my day and never failed to make me either giggle at how ridiculous you were being or gasp at how accurate you were. I was quite upset you got dreamed because you were doing amazingly well. Good job, dear!

Indeed - although I had a queasy feeling about you from Day 1, you managed to appease me much too easily. As far as I could detect, you made just one little slip, but that was quite priceless:

Originally Posted by Nog #459

Or I could have made a fervent defence of Lottie just for the sport of it. That would have been a nice challenge indeed and something worthy of trying. Had I succeeded, that would have been a heroic tale to remember. Thinking of it now, I could actually have tried that.

(in answer to Nerwen's question how you would have played as a wolf; bolding mine.)
Forgot for a moment that the situation was supposed to be hypothetical?
And I've totally got to snuggle you for this:

Originally Posted by Nog #447

(Is it just that middle-aged men don't feel so bad about younger women playing nice towards them than when young men do it? )

Originally Posted by sally

Steve-O. Because I kept calling you that while planning, though I’m not sure why. You poor things had horrid luck and for you to be the last wolf standing had to be tough. But you took it with dignity and managed to have quite the good time. May have had a slip or two but overall a fantastic performance and I’m very glad I had you in the pack.

What she said - I could have sworn you were innocent! Well played!

Originally Posted by sally

Lottie. Unluckiest. Wolf. Ever. Seriously, though, when Nog and Steve sent in the kill I’m fairly sure they thought you were the seer or something (if I remember incorrectly I’m more than happy to have them set me straight) and I about died of giggles.

You know what, that wolf-spotting knack of yours is getting uncanny! You were spot-on about Eönwë more or less from the beginning - and never mind that going on a crusade to lynch him wasn't exactly what your job description said...

Actually, it's quite funny how in the beginning everybody seemed worried that the new voting system (trust-based instead of suspicion-based) would make it so much easier for the wolves to blend in and go unnoticed, and then they were flushed out and killed off one after another in a few Days, with only one innocent being mislynched! But of course it's not every village that can boast of a set of gifteds like ours... Still, it could be interesting to try something like this more often.
All in all, this game was a lot of fun and had some very nice ideas, such as re-involving the dead in the endgame - as far as I can remember, the only game that has tried something remotely in that direction before was Brinn's pirate game. Well devised, sally, and very well handled!

Originally Posted by sally

Phantom. Heh. Heh. You know why I’m laughing. Also, nice heckling!

Indeed, I sort of missed your heckling posts later in the game. And I hope you didn't mind me talking back, I thought you could take it.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

You know what, that wolf-spotting knack of yours is getting uncanny! You were spot-on about Eönwë more or less from the beginning - and never mind that going on a crusade to lynch him wasn't exactly what your job description said...

Actually, I truely thought he was innocent. That's why I was trying to kill him - he seemed so good, I worried that people would never lynch him - and he was too spot-on with Nog, who I was pretty sure *was* a wolf. I did know about Glirdy, too, and spent the last few hours of that Day making incomprehensible "gaaahhhhhh..." noises at the screen.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just knew I was, I did I did. Well, I didn't *know*, but I had a psychic inkling.

Why on earth didn't you guys kill me!?!? haha

See? What did I say?

Originally Posted by Sally

Steve-O. Because I kept calling you that while planning, though I’m not sure why. You poor things had horrid luck and for you to be the last wolf standing had to be tough. But you took it with dignity and managed to have quite the good time. May have had a slip or two but overall a fantastic performance and I’m very glad I had you in the pack.

No, Steve never made a real slip at all– the closest he came to it was a few posts that struck me as a bit "off". In the end it was largely a matter of elimination:

Originally Posted by Seer to Village Prostitute, Night 5

Yes, Steve is now the most logical choice.

Known innocents (in order of certainty)

Izzy (cleared by Seer-dream)
Zil (cleared by Form)
Form (cleared by logic– why would a wolf clear Zil, since they can't both be wolves?)

This being Sally's game, I guess Form or Zil could be an extra cobbler, or some sort of weird Neutral role that just does what it likes... but I think we can ignore that possibility for the moment.

Yes, Sally, you managed to screw with our heads that much.

Originally Posted by Seer to Village Prostitute cont'd

Then we've got–

Likely innocent:

Wilwa

Semi-cleared by Lottie and Nog being after her, and by recent conduct. Mutual support of Glirdan is a point against her though.

You realise that Lottie's being Candy will have cleared Wilwa absolutely in the eyes of the village? If neither you, I nor Wilwa herself are dead toMorrow, and I haven't dreamt a wolf, you may have to come clean about the deception.

Who knows?:

Rune.

In his favour, he was after Glirdan pretty strongly. Against him is his lack of contribution recently and the vote from Nog.

The fact that we're now looking for an original wolf rather than the Cursed makes Rune a bit less suspicious.

Sorry about that, Rune. During the Day, when I assumed Lottie was Killer and the last wolf was Candy, you were a top suspect, because a.) you might have looked Seerish for going after Glirdan, b.), you'd been contributing less since the no-kill Night and c.) Nog voted for you when he was in danger himself.

Originally Posted by Seer to Village Prostitute cont'd

Likely Guilty

Steve.

Firstly, he's who's left over. Secondly, he fits the under-the-radar-wolf profile. It seems unlikely all three of the original pack were out in the open.

However, I'll now go and read through the early Days for clues.

Originally Posted by Seer to Village Prostitute

So I read through the earlier Days.

There's no smoking gun, but Steve still looks the most likely out of the three possibilities. I mean, he bickers with Nog and there's some mutual suspicion... but none of that's on a level that would be out of the ordinary for wolves.

Also, Lottie suspected him early in the game, which might have given the wolves a motive for trying to kill her. And Brinn the next Day talks of her "bad feeling" about him.

All of which is pretty darned weak as evidence, but it's the best we've got.

If it's not him, then it's Rune or Wilwa.

And if it's none of them, then something really, really, REALLY weird is going on. (What's that you say? Sally's modding the game? )

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

On that note, if anybody kept and wants to share their village prostitute PMs, feel free. I can't share any, having deleted them all in effort to keep my inbox clear for the massive influx that happened any time someone used the word 'penpal' in a post.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

The Council. You know who you are. Your opinions on post-wolf Night matters made quite a difference in the game. Thanks so much for agreeing to help out and for being so fair with your responses. Oh, and don’t worry, I don’t plan to tell anyone who you are (although you’re welcome to identify yourself if you like) or who you voted for, so don’t fret that someone’s going to show up at your door with a meat cleaver or a wet pool noodle or something.

I will, heh but you probably aleady knew this... Apologies for trying to bribe you to give me more power, but apparently I didn't need it as the two people who died...well let's just say hopefully there are no meatcleavers.

I didn't keep up at the beginning, but towards the end what stunning village play masterminded by Fea. In a wierd way I don't think this bodes well for people trusting you more.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I didn't keep up at the beginning, but towards the end what stunning village play masterminded by Fea. In a wierd way I don't think this bodes well for people trusting you more.

I know. Because even though I was wholly on the side of the village...

I just pulled one over on every single player, successfully false revealed and kept that role up until death with nobody the wiser except the actual seer, was instrumental in the deaths of three out of five wolves, identified the nature of that one no-Night-kill in about thirty seconds (I was forbidden by Sally to say anything, though I was allowed to imply, so go back and read my implication: "I think it's possible" prefaced "there's a freaking nother wolf."), and was voted Simon at least three times with nobody the wiser as to why I was so magically and 'easily' gaining power in the village.

Meep. I think I'll just um... not play again... for a while...

[Nerwen]

On the the other hand, at least you didn't sell us out to the wolves this time.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

On the the other hand, at least you didn't sell us out to the wolves this time.

Well...

I sort of sold out Wilwa a little, kind of, just a bit...

But only because I needed somebody to use in my efforts to get Nog to spill about his cohorts.

After we knew he was a wolf, I sent him a very flattering PM (I sincerely hope he kept it) asking for his advice because I didn't know who to use my Simon powers on, and I was a little worried that I was wrong about Wilwa's innocence, and I didn't want to cast aspersions on someone I trusted - like Nog himself - by voting him into power after I'd done so much work to make myself look like the seer...

I mean, what if I gave Nog votes of confidence and the wolves decided to kill him over it!

Next thing I know, Day has risen and Lottie, who we'd already suspected, was trying to get Wilwa killed. I held off my Simon votes until Sally promised me Nog had gone to bed (I was a bit nervous he'd hang me out to dry as the village fl00zy if he spotted my reversal of my 'opinion' on him).

Anyway, Nog, if you have that PM I sent you, I'd love to reread it. I know I sent snippets to Sally, who died of squee reading it.

[wilwarin538]

Sneaky sneaky Fea.


I kept only the last few PMs. When I "revealed" that Fea and I were PmPals I received this e-mail from her, entitled "SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH".

Originally Posted by Fea

There are evil things afoot and if the village finds out we actually are PM buddies we'll end up in trouble!

Sorry to call you a liar, though... Blame Sally.

haha...

I responded saying something about being confused and overly curious, and that someone should have warned me if I wasn't supposed to "reveal". She later said something about how she kinda had sorta warned me not too and that "it appears I'm responsible for you. Sally's games are clearly insane." And I agreed with the second part.

[satansaloser2005]

*bows*