WW LXXIII: Arkham Asylum: Holding Cells(Game Thread)

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Loslote

1. You can never have too much joking.

2. Actually, I'm not sure about her. Sally dear, are you innocent?

Depends on whether you're asking me because you wanna know if you should lynch me or you want to know if you should Night kill me. Which is it?


Nah, I'm completely innocent. Well, not completely, but as far as the game is concerned I'm as pure as the UNdriven (which makes so much more sense) snow.


EDT: x'd with Pitch and Sir Nog

[Nogrod]

*Nogrod wrestles away from his tormentors; the nurse and the doc give him a chase through the corridor*

If you look for the reasonable and careful, look for Kit, Boro and Pitch.

If you look for the bold, look for Nerwen or Dury

Or Pitch and Lottie. Funny you both recognized what I was talking about even if I gave no open reason for tying you two together...

I do agree with Boro here: with no seer around the wolves may play also "the supporting game". No one would believe the wolves could fex. try to save each other on every lynch possible etc. (it has happened, and the last remaining wolf *coughValiercough* won that time as no one believed she could play it that openly).

Interesting spotting this "mom"-thing there with Glirdan (heh "tell mom" = tell Morsul/Joker to get rid at Night of someone threatening him?). I'd not recommend lynching him for that though.

Sally I'm quite baffled with, like...


*The Doc and the nurse finally catch up with Nog and hit him unconscious with a baseball bat*

Doc: Get him the medication. No more running amok for this guy.

*Nog is given a serum and dragged away*

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

How many times do I apparently say something controversial on Day 1, and how many times does the discussion start reverting to what I actually 'meant,' what I was hinting, and than who jumped on an attacking bandwagon, then who defended it, and who jumped off, back on, all around...and where does it lead?

I think someone said that what Boro was saying here was taking it too far, or making too big a deal of it or something, but I don't agree. Boro has a point, this does happen to him a lot, so I don't think this reaction is out of place.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

About wilwa - this "we've got loads of time and no reason to worry" attitude is something I'd usually overlook (as in not notice), especially as she's so reasonable otherwise. But you're right, it's not exactly conducive to catching wolves.

It's called optimism. Boosts up the moral of the village and makes the wolves think they're chances are lower. I always find the statistics to make it seem like the village has better chances, it makes me more relaxed and then I can think more clearly and enjoy the game better.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Nope. With no Seer, traces of collaboration are one of the few signs of wolvery detectable by the unaided innocent eye, so the wolves would do their damnedest to avoid that, I think; especially if there are only two of them. (Like the Sith - always two there are of them, master and disciple. Hmmm...) *gets carried away, calls himself to order*

Yeah, I actually disagree. I think since there are only 2 of them and they do have to survive together a while they would actually be more adament about their trust, they don't want to risk one of them dying so they should be more likely to defend each other. I would suggest we spread the votes out a bit every day, and try to avoid too many bandwagon type voting. This way when we get the first one we should have a lot of voting information to help us find the other.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Nog: Beautiful Soup, so rich and green,
Waiting in a hot tureen!
Who for such dainties would not stoop?

Nog, again, I love you.

My turn!

New Patient: But I don't want to go among mad people.
Wilwa: Oh, you can't help that. We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.
New Patient: How do you know I'm mad?
Wilwa: You must be. Or you wouldn't have come here.


edit: x'ed with Nog

[Nogrod]

Heh, the Cheshire Cat acting catch-22?

[Nogrod]

Okay the drugs are doing their work and I feel soo sleepy...

On the one hand I could go for Kit as just a lucky shot meeting the description of a wise and careful wolf.

On the other hand I'm tempted to vote for Nerwen because she not only made that infamous "Go wolves" (followed by the IC underlining of her madness as an excuse to say that). It would be bold but intelligent from a wolf or a cobbler. Also her part in opening up / maintaining the Boro-issue back there looks sneaky indeed. Someone said the wolves would just like to sit down, but they also like to steer the first targets of discussion as then it's publicity away from them (the ones who are talked about end up being high on the lynch-list).

Then there would be this Pitch - Lottie duet... but to go for it I'd need to be able to hear more from them (Well, needing to get out at this time leaves the same taste for everyone of you) and right now I have no hope of getting rid of two vocal players who seem to make sense. If Wilwa is right about her math then there should be time to read them more.

A vote in a moment...

[Boromir88]

There's a 3/11 chance to lynch someone we'd want to.

7/11 regrettable, but ultimately canon-fodder lynch chance.

1/11 chance at lynching someone we really don't want to.

What's the point in listing the captain obvious stats? Really no point in making tentative, cautious voting, because there's a better chance for the lynch to be a good result, a high chance it'd be bad but only be a flesh wound, and a very minimal chance at a terrible lynch.

[Nogrod]

Why did you have to post that way Pitch?

I was kind of thinking that I'll choose my vote between Kit and Nerwen and now I need to consider brining you guys to the mix as well...

Blah... another cigarette.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Why did you have to post that way Pitch?

I was kind of thinking that I'll choose my vote between Kit and Nerwen and now I need to consider brining you guys to the mix as well...

Blah... another cigarette.

Alas there's no smoking in this facility. I apologize for the inconvenience.

[Nogrod]

Okay.

I went back to see what Nerwen actually said in the beginning and am a bit less enthusiastic in voting her. What Pitch summed up in his resumé was in a way correct but Nerwen's actual comments are not actually that much driving the discussion towards Boro but more like just reacting to things said just before.

But to see Pitch being the main source of my heightened suspicion of Nerwen makes me actually raise my eyebrow. A coincidence?

The sudden reaction to my throw-away mention looks suspicious to me (I think it was clear I was suspecting other people more and it was just a mentioning of a possibility). But both Pitch and Lottie went for it immediately.

If one of you two (Pitch & Lottie) is a wolf willing to make friends with an ordo, I'd say it would be Pitch. You have defended her from quite early on with no actual suspicions flying on her and with no good arguments as to why you "trust" her that much.

Then again I see Nerwen posting and adamantly avoiding any talk about her even if she comments my posts...

You guys make me crazy!

Wait... I am crazy already. Does it mean you make me sane again?

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Depends on whether you're asking me because you wanna know if you should lynch me or you want to know if you should Night kill me. Which is it?

If the latter, she wouldn't have to ask; as you should know quite well. So -?*frowns*

Originally Posted by Nog

Or Pitch and Lottie. Funny you both recognized what I was talking about even if I gave no open reason for tying you two together...

I suppose you mean something along the lines of Lottie for stirring, me for - let's call it "damage control"? Yep, once you mentioned it, it occurred to me we might make a good team. Maybe in another game.
For the record, though, while Lottie replied to your "P&L-in-cahoots"-theory, I didn't up to now, as far as I can remember. So even though you're right, how could you know we both recognized what you were talking about? I don't suppose you can read my mind, or can you?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

IFor the record, though, while Lottie replied to your "P&L-in-cahoots"-theory, I didn't up to now, as far as I can remember. So even though you're right, how could you know we both recognized what you were talking about? I don't suppose you can read my mind, or can you?

Nope. But you went into a kind of round-about damage control eg. speaking how implausible a close working together of the wolves would be...

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Nope. But you went into a kind of round-about damage control eg. speaking how implausible a close working together of the wolves would be...

*slaps forehead*
Will you believe that my thoughts were nowhere near your theory when I wrote that? If you were right, I'd honestly have to rep you after-game for a damn good catch, but as things are, that was pure coincidence. (Damn - just when I thought I'd caught you trying to fabricate a case...)

[Nerwen]

I am getting very concerned about Jonathan now. He is just too sweet and crunchy (all of him). What does he have to hide?

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

So let's look at the people who have been most reasonable up to now

That'll teach 'em.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Nope. With no Seer, traces of collaboration are one of the few signs of wolvery detectable by the unaided innocent eye, so the wolves would do their damnedest to avoid that, I think; especially if there are only two of them. (Like the Sith - always two there are of them, master and disciple. Hmmm...) *gets carried away, calls himself to order*

Ah, isn't treachery the way of the Sith? How do you know they won't be merrily (and obviously) stabbing each other in the back?

Actually... *assumes serious expression* I'm not sure what we can expect from the current set-up. We've got three unusual factors: two wolves, no Seer, and a tiny village. Would the wolves be able to ignore each other?

That's if we're hunting wolves. We seem to be hunting cobblers toDay. Tally-ho!

EDIT:X'd since Sally at #60.; clarification.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

It's called optimism. Boosts up the moral of the village and makes the wolves think they're chances are lower. I always find the statistics to make it seem like the village has better chances, it makes me more relaxed and then I can think more clearly and enjoy the game better.

Now that those pesky villagers have been lulled into a false sense of security, right?

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Yeah, I actually disagree. I think since there are only 2 of them and they do have to survive together a while they would actually be more adament about their trust, they don't want to risk one of them dying so they should be more likely to defend each other.

Ye-es.... only it'll be harder then usual for the wolves to control the lynch this early, and if one dies and leaves a clear trail to the other– game over. (Poor widdle fings )

So I could see them turning on each other, if it came to that... I mean, it depends on who they are, and what happens.

What we should do is ask everyone what they'd do if they were wolves, and the ones who do the exact opposite are the actual wolves.

Like so:

Nerwen: Jonathan, what would you do if you were a wolf?

Jonathan (squeaky voice): Oooo.... let me see... if I were a wolf, Nerwen, I'd be long, squishy, green and tasteless. Definitely.

Nerwen: Whereas you are in fact round, crisp, red and delicious? *voice drips with irony* Oh, how very convenient!

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Nog: Beautiful Soup, so rich and green,
Waiting in a hot tureen!
Who for such dainties would not stoop?

Doc: Don't try that on me. It won't work. Here's the good news: you'll soon be blissfully ignorant of what goes on. How's that?

Nog: Soup of the evening, beautiful Soup!
Soup of the evening, beautiful Soup!
Beau--ootiful Soo--oop!
Beau--ootiful Soo--oop!

Doc: Nuu-urse! The straightjacket, please!

*a mild struggle ensues*

Nog: Soo--oop of the e--e--evening!

Doc: Okay that's it.

*hits Nog with a hammer so that blood spills all around*

Doc: The bad news then... You suffer, beside your overt madness, from a rare syndrom called Europeanismus narcolepticus. It means you will fall in a deep sleep quite so soon...

*starts staring Nog in the eye and swinging a pendulum in front of his eyes*

Nog (resignedly): Beautiful, beautiful soup...

*hits Nog to a head with a hammer, more blood around*

Nog (hardly audible): Beautiful soup! Who cares for fish,
Game, or any other dish...

Doc: Nuu-urse! Nuu-urse! Get this weirdo to room 9, will you?

Stop! Stop! I'll go mad! Mad, I tell you!

...Oh, wait, I already am.

Carry on, then.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

What we should do is ask everyone what they'd do if they were wolves, and the ones who do the exact opposite are the actual wolves.

What a wonderful plan! But then of course the wolves would do exactly what they said they would so that they look good, so then we have to lynch the ones who do what they say they would do.

What's the point in listing the captain obvious stats? Really no point in making tentative, cautious voting, because there's a better chance for the lynch to be a good result, a high chance it'd be bad but only be a flesh wound, and a very minimal chance at a terrible lynch.

Yay for optimism!!!

I really have to do homework, I'll keep popping on and off for the next little while. Once this assignment is done I'll skim through and try to establish some suspicions.

[Pitchwife]

What we should do is ask everyone what they'd do if they were wolves, and the ones who do the exact opposite are the actual wolves.

Now that's really helpful, thank you.And that right after making a really good point about wolf strategy in this game. (Yes, Nog and wilwa, I've noted your objections, but I'm not quite convinced yet.)
But d'you know what, Nerwen, this mixture of perfect sense and madness is getting on my nerves...

(x-ed with wilwa)

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

this mixture of perfect sense and madness is getting on my nerves...

The game is working it's theme quite beautifully... beautifully... beautiful Soup!

[Nogrod]

I think the last cigarette didn't make me any wiser, and the clock ticks... tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic...

(Yes Sally, there's a lavatory that is not guarded and where one can smoke without the guards noticing... made me feel like a teenager again!)

I'd like to vote you Boro indeed!

If for nothing else, then to make you speak your mind at last and not get away with it just defending yourself and being smart & agreeable on general issues.

You have been around, you have been nice, cool and reasonable - and defending. And you have also avoided all possible controversies. Your suspicions? None.

If you're a wolf, then your points I have appreaciated about the wolves being very much able to play together in this kind of game turn out quite cynical points where you loved trying to lead us astray while knowing how the things are...

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I think the last cigarette didn't make me any wiser, and the clock ticks... tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic...

Croc!!!!



One more little paragraph to perfect and then I can come back on and make a list perhaps, and vote. So be back soon.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Boro

I feel like Tolkien and allegory, it's a good story folks...laugh!

It really was a good story.

Ack, I have to cast my vote now unfortunately because of my horrendous work schedule today.

I haven't been able to go into detail on all of the posts since my last, but I'll try to make a few hurried comments before returning to work.

Suspicions:
Boro- reaction to the whole hint thing seemed strange to me (I'll try to explain below)
Loslote: the whole hinting thing

1) I understand Boro's unhappiness with having his words picked apart, but seeing as he's such an accomplished player his posts (along with others who fit this category, Nogrod comes to mind) will be picked apart because he's been tricky in the past. However, he should know this is how it works and not get so up in arms about it.
2) Sally's monster post broke things down, but didn't actually provide a whole lot of commentary. Fairly typical behavior, but can't say I agree with this seeing as it could be a possible hiding tactic.
3) Glirdan was the first to say Boro is a hinting baddie. However, looking at the context of the post it's mostly a joke. Loslote jumping onto that and making it something has both a good and a bad side. The good side is it has stirred up conversation, the bad side is that she latched on to that particular idea in a somewhat serious manner. Nerwen does the same sort of thing.
4) I'd like to see Durelin explain her groupings:

Originally Posted by Durelin

Wolves - Round 1

Nogrod
Loslote

Wolves - Round 2

Glirdan
Kitanna

5)

Originally Posted by Pitch

About wilwa - this "we've got loads of time and no reason to worry" attitude is something I'd usually overlook (as in not notice), especially as she's so reasonable otherwise. But you're right, it's not exactly conducive to catching wolves.

Interesting point and I had actually overlooked Wilwa's post about that. But the part about it not being conducive to catching wolves can also go along with those who are back and forth on Boro's "hinting" issue.

I apologize for this rushed post, but...

++ Loslote

As I said above she took hold of the hinting idea that Glirdan appears to have put forth as a joke. This did stir up conversation, but at the same time Loslote didn't commit to the idea one way or the other. This sort of vague, flip-flipping is an easy way to hide a baddie on Day 1.

[Durelin]

I'm not going to explaining myself this time. No one ever listens anyway.

Too many people... (I know, there's really not as many as usual...)

I'll try to come up with something.

[Morsul the Dark]

I just LOVE the Democratic process! Hehe The Rasmussin Poll has the following votes so far!

Kitanna----->Loslote
Pitch------>Durelin
Nogrod----->Pitch
Wilwa----->Boro
Loslote---->Nerwen

Confusion Confusion Everywhere!

Tick....Tock....Tick...Tock

[Isabellkya]

Originally Posted by Izzy

What purpose would it serve her, if she were nefarious to go around proclaiming it?
To see if it would be passed off as first Day banter and play?

If she is nefarious and is lynched because of her proclamations; then that would be quite the silly wolf. Or do you supposed she is the Cobbler?

Originally Posted by Loslote

She might have been hoping people would say "oh, a wolf would never be so bold, she must be innocent!"

Originally Posted by Izzy

Your reasons, or lack there of confuse me Loslote. Should these of been things that you yourself had thought of before making your vote. As opposed to speculating when I asked after your vote?

From the your post here in the middle, it had not sounded like you considered the motive behind a Nerwolf playing around in evil banter.

[Pitchwife]

Nog, go for me if it makes you happy; I'll deal with that toMorrow (hopefully), right now it just distracts me.

My rendezvous with the bedbugs is drawing near, and so is voting time. So...

Will not vote for:
- Glirdan, for reason given in #56, and I don't really know what to make of the little he posted.
- Kit, because being reasonable is not enough evidence.
- Lottie, not because I 'trust' her, but because I haven't seen any real evidence against her so far.
- sally: she does look innocent to me (too innocent to be true? don't know, wait & see).
- Boro: need to see more of him to get a picture.

Unsure about:
- wilwa: I'm flip-flopping quite a bit about her, with her "Yes-we-can"-attitude...
- Nog: maybe he's trying to fabricate something after all, but I admit I'm biased here.
- Izzy. I considered her lynchworthy for lack of contribution, but I see she's just turned up.

Might vote for:
- Dury for combination of submarining and unexplained suspicions
- Nerwen: another one I'm flip-flopping bigtime about; I'd highly appreciate it if she'd commit to either lunacy or reason, and I usually suspect her way too little - maybe it's time to break that habit.

[satansaloser2005]

Nog, you are a nutter. A proper, deep, scary nutter. And I love you for it. <3

(And oi, I'm narcoleptic. You trying to imply something? Hehe.)



Now a list.


Suspicious

Wilwa: Like I said, she seems good enough but the tone of her posts just seems off to me, as if she's playing at something more than what she's saying. You know my record of mixing up wolves with gifteds, but I'm going to put her toward the top of my list because she just seems too unreal to be innocent.

Nerwen: I'm recognizing a change from 'normal' Nerwen behavior and whether she's cobbler or wolf I'm leaning toward an evil roled Nerwen more than a gifted Nerwen.

Durelin (?): I think I'm just not used to playing with her since it's been quite a while but she seems off to me. She's not my first choice for the Day (partly because it has been a while since I've played with her) but she's not my last either.


Erm, yeah, that's really as far as I got. Sorry; I'm distracted. But still. Here's a quick and dirty one so you can see where I stand, even if I don't explain all the way.

Guilty
Wilwa
Nerwen

Not as guilty
Lottie
Pitch
Durelin

No real feeling
Izzy
Nog
Glirdan
Kit
Boro



So, erm, yeah. I totally had this post done hours ago but then I left and never submitted it. *shifty eyes* I know. I suck a bit at life.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Loslote. Nerwen and Wilwa are your top suspects because they speak sense and are bantering?

Why is that suspicious?

No, I think it's suspicious that Nerwen's saying "Oh I'm soooo evil! Haha isn't it hilarious???" and Wilwa's playing along. I doubt if they're both wolves, but I'm pretty sure one is. I think it's Nerwen. Soo...

++Nerwen

[Isabellkya]

What purpose would it serve her, if she were nefarious to go around proclaiming it?
To see if it would be passed off as first Day banter and play?

If she is nefarious and is lynched because of her proclamations; then that would be quite the silly wolf. Or do you supposed she is the Cobbler?

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

What purpose would it serve her, if she were nefarious to go around proclaiming it?
To see if it would be passed off as first Day banter and play?

If she is nefarious and is lynched because of her proclamations; then that would be quite the silly wolf. Or do you supposed she is the Cobbler?

She might have been hoping people would say "oh, a wolf would never be so bold, she must be innocent!"

[Nerwen]

Back again.

Originally Posted by Loslote

She might have been hoping people would say "oh, a wolf would never be so bold, she must be innocent!"

Yeah, and I might have just been having fun. I mean, your "case" against me seems to be based entirely on one early joke-post. Opportunistic, no? And I also don't like the fact that you really went in on me after I mentioned that I was having problems with internet access.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Back again.

Yeah, and I might have just been having fun. I mean, your "case" against me seems to be based entirely on one early joke-post. Opportunistic, no? And I also don't like the fact that you really went in on me after I mentioned that I was having problems with internet access.

Actually, I didn't see that. And it was based on more than one post...you do this several times.

[Isabellkya]

Originally Posted by Loslote

She might have been hoping people would say "oh, a wolf would never be so bold, she must be innocent!"

My last post had been referring to that comment, Loslote.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

My last post had been referring to that comment, Loslote.

Which comment? I'm afraid you've lost me...

@ Nerwen: It's not so much evil as it is laughing at evilness that could potentially be in you...and acting as though it's funny to pretend.

[Glirdan]

Okay, so I'm back after that really long sleep I had...Doctors gave me some meds for my....*attention is grabbed* Oooo!! Look, pretty butterfly! And no I don't mean that crazy girl who only thinks she's a butterfly.

Anyways, will go back and read through the posts a little more carefully (only had time to briefly scan through) and make some judgments and a vote.

X'ed with Lottie

[Glirdan]

So one thing I'm noticing right off the bat here is the constant Lottie versus Nerwen posts. Really eyebrow raising for me. Perhaps Wolf on Wolf? However, I do not believe that either of them would be that blatant about it. Yet we cannot count out the fact that they might like us to think this way and thus avoid detection....Hmm.....

Anyways,

Originally Posted by Sallycakes

Well, that's not entirely true. I found a knife under his pillow. Worried? A bit.

That's funny as I found a blowtorch in YOUR room!

Originally Posted by Boro

Why is it always me at the focus of controversy on Day 1s!? Why!?

Certainly not because of your comedic timing cuz you don't have any. I for one was actually just being a nuisance and felt like stirring things up a bit seeing as there was nothing but in character posting (with the odd few here and there).

Originally Posted by Sallycakes

Nice commentary on the logistics of the game, but it seems a bit too much of a "ra ra village we can do this" post to me. I'm just sayin'.

Which is typical innocent Wilwa (still don't trust you though )

To help prove my point a little further about the Lottie versus Nerwen debacle, highlighting the points I find most interesting:

Originally Posted by Pitch

#8 Glirdan makes a typical Day1 banteresque remark that Boro likes to see Batman killed + posted first -> is guilty.
#9 Lottie comments on Glirdan's post that if there's anything at all in Boro's post, it could be a cobbler hint; then immediately cautions against taking that too seriously.
#10 Nerwen replies with what could be seen as a hint of her own and says Boro could be wolf hinting to cobbler.
#11 Lottie takes notice of Nerwen's maybe-hint and cautions further against taking apparent hints too seriously; "don't think we should automatically assume Boro's evil."
#13 Nerwen points out that obvious hints from baddies early in game are rare and continues with maybe/maybe not.
#16 Glirdan is starting to get unnerved by Lottie and Nerwen making more of his remark than he intended. I don't know how serious he was about the unnerving - could be overreaction.
#18 Kit comments on Lottie's ambiguity about the hint question.
#20 Pitch (that's me) questions Glirdan on his reaction.
#21 wilwa doesn't see anything cobblerish in Boro.
#22 Neither does Nog.
#29 Pitch (see above) comments on Nerwen's wolf-cheer and Lottie's ambiguity, is wishy-washy himself.
And thus it goes on with nothing really new, apart from sally's knife joke, which made me coin the metaphor Kit objects to.

The next four posts after my typical Day 1 banter were by none other then the two in question. Bandwagon forming, or am I just delirious?

Originally Posted by Nog

Glirdan - Confused about him, like I tend to be...

Good to know that some things never change.

Originally Posted by Lottie

Ooh. Nice theory, but it raises a point: I don't think wolves are going to be very close to each other at all, since there's only two. I would think we should be looking more for people studiously ignoring each other and maybe saying "oh, I don't know, maybe they're evil..." than "ooh they're so awesome/evil!!!"

Or perhaps you're just saying this to throw us off because in actuality you and Nerwen are the Wolves and you just don't want us to catch onto it?

Originally Posted by Pitch

Seriously though, I think we should let Glirdan be for toDay, as he's got a RL time issue and may not be able to speak for himself in time.

FINALLY someone who reads the posts in the Admin threads! Thank you!

Originally Posted by Wilwa

Nog, again, I love you.

The fact that this is the second time that she said this unsettles me. Her and Nog are usually at each other's throats....Hmmm.....And after reading all of these points brought up about her constant "We have enough time" schpeals, I'm really actually starting to question her motives.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

[B]Ye-es.... only it'll be harder then usual for the wolves to control the lynch this early, and if one dies and leaves a clear trail to the other– game over. (Poor widdle fings )

This post makes me leary. I am still quite adamant that she is no ordinary villager...but this makes me lean towards her being a Cobbler and not a Wolf...Thanks for possibly shooting a hole in my Wolf on Wolf theory.

Originally Posted by Dury

I'm not going to explaining myself this time. No one ever listens anyway.

Too many people... (I know, there's really not as many as usual...)

I'll try to come up with something.

Originally Posted by Dury

Aw, I have to double post? I want to give you guys something before people go to bed.

So the reasons for my groupings: the voices in my head? It's like gut feeling. It tells me things. Indigestion does make the voices more talkative.

Basically, Nogrod's first couple posts gave me a vibe of some vague sort. Loslote is annoyingly agree-able and like 'im going to be helpful!' But so is Sally.

Glirdan seemed like low-radar wolf somehow, and Kitanna seemed like 'I'm going to be the sense in this chaos and skate through silly Day 1 mwaha.'

But Pitchwife could be the same thing.

And Isabel is low-radar skater wolf.

Hehe.

Okay, these two posts make me uneasy, but more of "Look at me, I'm the Cobbler" sort of way. No explanation of any sorts from the first post and the second just seems like a "I'm going to just be a menace and make no sense but try to seem helpful" kinda thing...Or maybe that's the delirium again.

Another post to throw me off kilter with Wilwa:

Boro's first post, I don't see anything wrong with it, just a fun story he wanted to share. But afterwards he defended it, then again, then just some little comments here and there and not really much more than that. So I find he spent too much time focusing on something that was not really that big of a deal, and really it's not like someone was gonna vote him just for that, so it didn't really merit the defence. Just seems like he could have said something more pertinent.

And then later, in the EXACT same post (highlighting the important bit):

*breaths* Anyways. So Pitch and Lottie do look a bit off to me, but I think Boro is the worst. I just find he made a big deal about people making a big deal out of something little he said. And then there wasn't much else (RL, I know, but he did make some random comments here and there, if he knew he couldn't come back he *should* have said something substantial instead). So. My vote could very well go here.

Why go out of your way to defend him and then do a complete 180 to discredit him? This post is too flip-floppy for me (which is hilarious considering that I'M usually the flip-floppy one!)

Originally Posted by Dury

I didn't vote for you, Loslote.

But I'm glad you fear me.

Too obvious to be an outright Wolf confession....and perhaps even a little too outright as a Cobbler...But something just isn't sitting right with me when I see her posts.

Originally Posted by Wilwa

No, not because he wants to vote for me, but because he plans to vote for me if I vote for him. There's a difference.

No, no there really is no difference at all. Hmmm......

And that brings me to the end of my extremely long post rummaging....Now for a list of suspects.

Suspect
Wilwa
Nerwen
Dury
Lottie

Unsure
Boro
Nog
Izzy
Kit

Inclined to Trust
Sally
Pitch

Trust
Glirdan
Mod God

Will vote shortly.

[Durelin]

I'm sorry, but don't expect a lot of contribution. I'll be around, but I'm always so busy...busy, busy... Time is a terrible thing to waste. Or is that the mind?

I'm pretty lost and rather wanting to vote people who have no votes. But that is not a good idea at this time. So...of the people who have votes.

++Loslote

Seems the worst to me, though it could very well be her style. I normally suspect Sally because of hers, though I now suspect her more because of her way of going about voting Wilwa. But I don't feel great about Wilwa either.

Ohhh bleh.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Glirdan

So one thing I'm noticing right off the bat here is the constant Lottie versus Nerwen posts. Really eyebrow raising for me. Perhaps Wolf on Wolf?

Nope. She's been going after me in what I think is a very opportunistic way, and I've been defending myself. It really is that simple.

EDIT:X'd with Durelin.