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Flame of the Ainulindalë
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(~~~) *grin appearing*
It's kind of frustrating that you guys don't seem to get the point I'm trying to make time and again... Quote:
If I was a wolf, I wouldn't call her posting on me yesterDay "trying to hide from the wolves". But it would be "not helping the innocents at all" as she didn't then leave any known innocent and took the risk of losing last Night's dream by exposing herself to the wolves. So she exposed herself to the wolves but told nothing to the innocents? That doesn't make sense Lommy. C'mon. Greenie is smarter than that. I just get this funny feeling you and Agan are pushing this a bit too eagerly... Okay, if you don't understand what I'm trying to say, well then don't. We can afford a mislynch as is said many times. (~~~) *grin vanishing* EDIT: X'd with Lommy and Legate
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Anyway, my main dilemma toDay is simply whether to join lynching Nogrod - and therefore getting part of the answers to the above - or to believe in the other of the possibilities and lynch one of the other suspects, in my case Inzil. However as I am not sure how much the other makes sense right now and considering that I have been slightly unsure about Inzil's guilt for a few reasons (see earlier toDay), it might as well be Nogrod. Even though I am wondering if his defense is not that of a genuine innocent.
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Werewolf Psychic
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Alright. I'm here for a few minutes, but I've... tarts to steal (read: final dress rehearsal tonight) so I won't be here at deadline.
Right now my vote will probably be for Nogrod. I've seen Nog come down hard on the "frustrated innocent" defense (and been on the receiving end of such ![]() Now, Legate - Quote:
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Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV Last edited by Shastanis Althreduin; 04-14-2010 at 04:23 PM. Reason: X'ed with Nog and Skip. |
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Werewolf Psychic
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Yes, Nog, I can do that with three of the same quotes you just used. Let me just change the bolding around, shall I?
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Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV Last edited by Shastanis Althreduin; 04-14-2010 at 04:30 PM. Reason: Fixed a quote and formatting. |
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Anyway, as for voting, I am not feeling as comfortable as earlier. Of course after two Wolves being lynched it is not any big deal yet. But nevertheless, I think I will be probably voting Nogrod. It also makes sort of the most sense. Even though I would assume him to put up a bit more fight as a Wolf. Argh. Now I was basically just sitting here and thinking for a few minutes. Okay, let me see if a sudden stroke of brilliance shines on me or if I crossposted with somebody clever, then I vote and go to sleep.
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Werewolf Psychic
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Leaving, have to vote now.
++Nogrod
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Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV |
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Doing through noticed this
Skip: That doesn't seem like a thing that would prevent someone from checking up on the thread, him being in his own flat and all. (Reffering to my kitchen painting) Skip if you only knew how easily distracted I am that kitchen would never be finished if I checked up on the downs ![]()
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[quote=I know this will be an unpopular move however I'm going with my gut on this one. ++Glirdan It got me one wolf so maybe It'll get me another.[/quote] This vote looks more opportunistic than the Sally-vote. Also it's another early vote. Quote:
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Wintywinty – not guilty... voted day 1 but haven't seen anything beond that
Mira – Last of the Tea Party possibly guilty Agan – Innocent Shasta – Probably guilty Lottie – innocent Nerwen – The devil wears prada Legate – no idea Morsul – Innocent...Ordo... and backup lynch if need be Skip – Innocent Lommy – Hopefully innocent Brinniel – no idea
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Brinniel, Day Two
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Believes Loslote's claim. Result of lynch fairly good. Thinks it likely at least one wolf would have been trying to save Lottie (this was true). #277 winty's stated reason for voting her absurd, but probably just newbie-ish-ness. Agrees with me that we shouldn't ignore Lottie-voters either. Skip and Nog "seem reasonable so far". Ask Lommy to back up her claim that there were actually good reasons to vote Loslote. #408 Now understands what Lommy meant, but disagrees. Greenie's vote ill-reasoned, but not necessarily wolfish. Nienna and Shasta look somewhat bad for their Day One votes. Responds to Aganzir, who pointed out that there was no apparent way winty could have known Brinn's reputation: says winty has now admitted making it up, and still thinks him just a n00b. Doesn't like Mira's vote for winty. Agrees Sally is suspicious, and can understand why people are voting her (Sally had five votes at this point). Unlikely all Lottie's suspects are wolves. Izzy and I are under her radar. Comments: Failure to take advantage of winty looks good, sudden late suspicion of Sally– whom she had never mentioned before– looks a bit dubious. #413 Votes Sally (6) "for reasons stated above". #416 Agrees with Glirwolf that wintywinty "really hasn't made much of an improvement from yesterDay" and might be a wolf, but doesn't really think so. #418. Asks if deadline was extended. #427. Had missed the post about extended deadline. General comments: Nothing really suspicious here either. The only things that do worry me slightly are the overall careful and bland tone of Brinn's posting, and the fact that she showed no sign of suspecting Sally (unless I missed something) until the latter had five votes. Sallywolf says here that she has "no worries" about Brinn and Nogwolf singles Sally's trust of Brinn and Zil (innocent) out to comment on. If Sally was indeed planning to play the Seer, this would tend to support Brinn's innocence. EDIT:X'd since my last post
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Well that was not just *somebody* clever, that was our very Moddess
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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Okay, it brought some new questions and stuff, but I cannot really focus on that anymore. It brought at least sort-of peace of mind in the sense that I have sort of confirmed to myself that there is only one sensible way for me to vote now. And if nothing else, it is sort of giving Greenie's yesterDay's vote and suspicion of Nogrod a support post mortem. If she ever dreamt of a Wolf, it was most likely him.
++Nogrod Good night, people.
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As I did with Glirdan, I have the feeling this is too easy.
However: 1. I didn't like Nog's nitpicking me on Day 1 about my comments on ww's vote. 2. Greenie voting him 'just because he's Nog' would seem more likely to me for a Day 1 vote from her, not a Day 3. It seems odd that she would have singled him out like that for no reason when there were seemingly better candidates, which was why I suspected she might be a wolf. 3. I don't have any better ideas at the moment. 4. I have to leave now, and I probably won't make it back before DL. ++Nog
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(~~~) *grin appearing*
Sorry. I have been writing the Arda Cup 10 game results and now need to pull off to sleep. Quote:
Let me put this theory bluntly: If Greenie dreamt of a Wolfgrod, then she knew he would kill her. So why didn't she reveal openly, thus telling everyone who the innocents are (so who we should not vote in the future) and secure her one more dream? A seer doesn't fool the innocents, she tries to fool the wolves. But if the theory you are bringing forwards is true it means Greenie revealed herself to the baddies but didn't give any hints to the goodies. Just how probable you think that is? Anyway. Bedtime for me. Heh, I remember you Brinn making something like an argument on my placement of my vote earlier. You know what, I need to go to sleep and I can't control when the other people make their votes... I think Lommy made quite a reasonable rant on the issue already. Sadly we Europeans can't just choose to hang on or to tactically vote "early". 4.30AM is about the most devillish DL there is. So I will vote for either Shasta or Aganzir (I could go with Lommy as well). The two look like possible pals. Agan just looking too happy to get an innocent lynched with a general support and not making an effort to consider. So a wolf who just loves what is going on and cares not? Shasta was making that totally weird point of Agan being dreamt of by Greenie. There is no way you can honestly make that interpretation from Greenie's posts (as you can check form the quotes). So there is another agenda there? Is it that you try to help Agan or you just try to butter up with her? I'll go with ++ Shasta If I'd to have one more Day to make my best (as I have time then) then Shasta is my best bet as he already has two votes. But also I could say that with the two of them, Agan and Shasta, it is easier to see him as trying to play it for the mate. With Agan it might be that she was just lazy. (Well, were she just lazy, she wouldn't have been that comfortable... you know, wolves can be comfortable with lynches as they know the role of the one who is lynched, we innocents can't be that comfortable). But Shasta's defence of Agan-dream by Greenie is just plain false so he is either a fool or false. I don't think he's a fool so I must conclude he is false. Blah. Seeing the latest votes... thanks so much friends. I really appreciate your attentiviness. But as you said, we can afford the mislynch. So no major harm done, even if I don't exactly like it. Sadly you're not going to be able to read anything from the votes from toDay if the voting continues like this. Morsul -> Shasta Agan -> Nogrod Lommy -> Nogrod (2) Skip -> Shasta (2) Shasta -> Nogrod (3) Legate -> Nogrod (4) Inziladun -> Nogrod (5) Brinn -> Nogrod (6) Nogrod -> Shasta (3) It's 6-3 between me and Shasta now and if I counted it right it's 5 votes to come. Your choice. (~~~) *grin vanishing*
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shadow of a doubt
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Nogrod is starting to worry me too but I've not really kept up to date with the reading and just why he's suspected. Because Greenie the Seer's vote for him, is it not? It would be remarkable if we (though I can't claim any credit) could lynch a wolf three consecutive nights. Don't know if Nogrod is one but things are beginning to bad for him methinks. How do you behead a big grin anyway? Let's ask the The Queen Of Hearts shall we?
But I will not be the one to try to fit the noose around his neck or lack of. The most honest option for me is Shasta, who I've sort of suspected since early on. I could go for Morsul too but don't see that happening now. ++Shasta *is off to sleep*
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