WW LXXVII: The Metamorphs of Wolf-562-e - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nerwen · 06-11-2010, 08:28 PM

Looks like I won't be needing Sally McTally's assistance this time...

Complete List of All Valid Votes

Lottie –> Pitchwife.

Blind Guardian · 06-11-2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Looks like I won't be needing Sally McTally's assistance this time...

Complete List of All Valid Votes

Lottie –> Pitchwife.

I'm going to vote for ++Lottie because she's pushing everyone to vote. Very wolfish.

EDIT: For the forth time, hopefully i get it!

Loslote · 06-11-2010, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

I'm going to vote for

Code:

Lottie

because she's pushing everyone to vote. Very wolfish.

You've not highlighted. I can't believe I'm pointing this out; this is an insanely bad vote. Not only have you not reasoned, but you're voting for (and the rate this is going, possibly lynching!) an innocent.

EDIT: Still not normal formatting. Modwen, are you accepting that?

EDITEDIT: Try putting the vote on its own special line. As someone once said, on its own little island of votedom.

Blind Guardian · 06-11-2010, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loslote

You've not highlighted. I can't believe I'm pointing this out; this is an insanely bad vote. Not only have you not reasoned, but you're voting for (and the rate this is going, possibly lynching!) an innocent.

EDIT: Still not normal formatting. Modwen, are you accepting that?

No I did. I tried and tried again. FINALLY I got the fact that that [CODE] is sopost to be [HIGHLIGHT] !!!

Isabellkya · 06-11-2010, 08:39 PM

Loslote. BlindGuardian fixed the tag error. It is highlighted now. Try a refresh?

X'd with BG, Dun, and Shasta.

Loslote · 06-11-2010, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Loslote. BlindGuardian fixed the tag error. It is highlighted now. Try a refresh?

It's been a work-in-progress for several minutes now.

Inziladun · 06-11-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

You've not highlighted. I can't believe I'm pointing this out; this is an insanely bad vote. Not only have you not reasoned, but you're voting for (and the rate this is going, possibly lynching!) an innocent.

EDIT: Still not normal formatting. Modwen, are you accepting that?

Did you really intend that to be a vote, BG? If so, your reasoning is beyond poor.

x/d with Izzy and BG

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-11-2010, 08:39 PM

BG, when you're the only one with a vote, you're going to push others to vote as well. One innocent can't lynch a wolf by his/herself. The reasoning for your vote is entirely specious, and that, combined with your "I couldn't be a wolf twice in a row" defense from earlier is going to end up as follows -

++Blind Guardian

Nerwen · 06-11-2010, 08:42 PM

Lottie –> Pitchwife.
Blind Guardian –> Lottie.
Isabellkya –> Blind Guardian.

See a pattern?

I'm almost disappointed next vote wasn't for Izzy.

Shasta –> Blind Guardian (2).

Isabellkya · 06-11-2010, 08:37 PM

++Blind Guardian

I really fail to understand why you are voting for someone whom you said was 'relatively innocent'.

Blind Guardian · 06-11-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

[highlight*]++Blind Guardian[/highlight]

I really fail to understand why you are voting for someone whom you said was 'relatively innocent'.

I did?

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-11-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

I did?

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Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

Relatively Innocent:
Lottie!

You did.

Loslote · 06-11-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

[*highlight]++Blind Guardian[/highlight]

I really fail to understand why you are voting for someone whom you said was 'relatively innocent'.

Good point. I'd forgotten that.

wilwarin538 · 06-11-2010, 08:43 PM

KK. I'm here, and there's what, 20 minutes left right? I'm going to skim over things quickly and try to come up with something semi logical before I fall asleep.

Isabellkya · 06-11-2010, 08:44 PM

Haha @ the pattern. Dang Shasta ruined it!

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-11-2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Haha @ the pattern. Dang Shasta ruined it!

Not on purpose!

Blind Guardian · 06-11-2010, 09:07 PM

OH FOR GOD SAKE I"M THE SEER! THE TELEPATH! NICE GOING!!

Now I'm going to go cry...

Inziladun · 06-11-2010, 09:08 PM

DL. Silence.

Nerwen · 06-11-2010, 09:10 PM

BG, no-one is officially dead until I say so.

So let me say so now: You're dead.

There.

Isabellkya · 06-13-2010, 08:47 PM

For clarification. My #52 was in response to Loslote's #37.
It happens quite often, not even sure why I need to point to it again. People will rule x player out of being a wolf for x reason, because wolves just won't do that. Most often it happens with new players. Quite a few people completely ruled Paranoia out as a wolf, because he was new to the BD - which they read as new to Werewolf in general. Which was not true. I've played in games with him before, it was even stated. Wolves will do just about anything under the sun, especially if it will further their cause - a victory.

My reason for voting for BG implied fabrication/lying/falsehood. Things don't need to be spelled out like that, for it to be seen.

No. 99% of the time, innocents do not need to fabricate a list of their suspicions. Even if they have a result which they are trying to get out - there is still the rest of the player list. Which will have honest suspicions. Wolves on the other hand, know whom the wolves are - therefore will not have honest suspicions.

Really Rikae; suspecting me is all good and fine. But twisting my words, and putting your own meanings to what I said - is beyond ridiculous.

I stated right with my seer thought, that I immediately ruled BG out - as she was too new to try a move such as that.

Again, you are giving your own reasons to what I actually said and meant. I can be a stickler for details. I don't sit well - ever - with people attributing data to me wrongly. I own up to my own actions - but say I did something which I didn't; what I should just continue to let people think that I voted BG because of last game; when I did not. It is conclusions based upon false information.

X'd with everything after #208.

Nerwen · 06-13-2010, 08:50 PM

Ten minutes.

Loslote · 06-13-2010, 08:53 PM

++Vanilwuffin

For, of course, previously stated reasons...

EDIT: xed with Rikae...actually, none of the BeiGe-bandwaggoners were particularly inexperienced...

Rikae · 06-13-2010, 08:52 PM

So, Izzy, you think that it's reasonable to say that copying someone else's suspicion list and then voting, three posts later, for a person you listed as "relatively innocentish" is the sort of thing to further a wolf's victory? On day one, in a village full of inexperienced players eager to lynch for a silly blunder? Wow. I've seen you as a wolf before, and you can be surprisingly formidable, considering you hold such absurd views about wolfish success.

ROFL.

Isabellkya · 06-13-2010, 08:58 PM

I thought we were supposed to be voting for whom we thought suspicious. Not whom had more potential to be lynched. Or did the nature of werewolf change in the last week or something without my knowledge?

Rikae. Why do you think this village is full of inexperienced players? 98% of what you say is absolutely ridiculous.

++Rikae

You can deem it as OMGUS I suppose, though that isn't the reason. Yes we interpret what others do - but blatantly spinning it to fit your vote.. come on.

Nerwen · 06-13-2010, 09:00 PM

Deadline.

Rikae · 06-13-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

My reason for voting for BG implied fabrication/lying/falsehood. Things don't need to be spelled out like that, for it to be seen.

If you disliked even her simple use of Lottie's list so much, why didn't you say so yesterDay?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izzy

No. 99% of the time, innocents do not need to fabricate a list of their suspicions.

I wish that were true. However, I've played a few werewolf games myself, you know. In my experience, they very often do just that on Day 1.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izzy

Even if they have a result which they are trying to get out - there is still the rest of the player list. Which will have honest suspicions. Wolves on the other hand, know whom the wolves are - therefore will not have honest suspicions.

No, this is backwards. A wolf has no reason to care who is lynched, as long as it's not a buddy - and therefore has the luxury of voting in the way that seems most plausible and consistent. Innocents may have to change their minds in the search for a real baddie.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Izzy

Really Rikae; suspecting me is all good and fine. But twisting my words, and putting your own meanings to what I said - is beyond ridiculous.

I stated right with my seer thought, that I immediately ruled BG out - as she was too new to try a move such as that.

Ok, so you did. I did not twist your words, I forgot.
I still don't buy it, though, and don't see the point in even mentioning it.

Isabellkya · 06-15-2010, 01:52 PM

Okay. So I'm guessing that the secret role is indeed akin to a WereBear or simply a third party. They hunt someone/thing specific; yet aren't adverse to killing anything in their path?

This third party attacked Loslote, and the remaining Metamorph finished her off, in some sort of revenge kill? Or just plot to show that the Third Party & Metamorph both chose to kill Loslote.

Dun. If Wilwa and I were morphmates. Why throw my vote away on Rikae? Why not 'seize opportunity and find a plausible reason to vote for someone other than Wilwa', whom would keep her away from the noose? Some one like.. Paranoia for instance. I was the last vote, why not try and save her?

06-11-2010, 08:28 PM	#1
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Looks like I won't be needing Sally McTally's assistance this time... Complete List of All Valid Votes Lottie –> Pitchwife. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-11-2010, 08:39 PM	#8
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	BG, when you're the only one with a vote, you're going to push others to vote as well. One innocent can't lynch a wolf by his/herself. The reasoning for your vote is entirely specious, and that, combined with your "I couldn't be a wolf twice in a row" defense from earlier is going to end up as follows - ++Blind Guardian __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV Last edited by Shastanis Althreduin; 06-11-2010 at 08:40 PM. Reason: X'ed with Izzy, Blind x2, and Inzil

06-11-2010, 08:42 PM	#9
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Lottie –> Pitchwife. Blind Guardian –> Lottie. Isabellkya –> Blind Guardian. See a pattern? I'm almost disappointed next vote wasn't for Izzy. Shasta –> Blind Guardian (2). __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-11-2010, 08:37 PM	#10
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	++Blind Guardian I really fail to understand why you are voting for someone whom you said was 'relatively innocent'. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-11-2010, 08:43 PM	#14
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	KK. I'm here, and there's what, 20 minutes left right? I'm going to skim over things quickly and try to come up with something semi logical before I fall asleep. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

06-11-2010, 08:44 PM	#15
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Haha @ the pattern. Dang Shasta ruined it! __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-11-2010, 09:08 PM	#18
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	DL. Silence. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

06-11-2010, 09:10 PM	#19
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	BG, no-one is officially dead until I say so. So let me say so now: You're dead. There. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-13-2010, 08:47 PM	#20
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	For clarification. My #52 was in response to Loslote's #37. It happens quite often, not even sure why I need to point to it again. People will rule x player out of being a wolf for x reason, because wolves just won't do that. Most often it happens with new players. Quite a few people completely ruled Paranoia out as a wolf, because he was new to the BD - which they read as new to Werewolf in general. Which was not true. I've played in games with him before, it was even stated. Wolves will do just about anything under the sun, especially if it will further their cause - a victory. My reason for voting for BG implied fabrication/lying/falsehood. Things don't need to be spelled out like that, for it to be seen. No. 99% of the time, innocents do not need to fabricate a list of their suspicions. Even if they have a result which they are trying to get out - there is still the rest of the player list. Which will have honest suspicions. Wolves on the other hand, know whom the wolves are - therefore will not have honest suspicions. Really Rikae; suspecting me is all good and fine. But twisting my words, and putting your own meanings to what I said - is beyond ridiculous. I stated right with my seer thought, that I immediately ruled BG out - as she was too new to try a move such as that. Again, you are giving your own reasons to what I actually said and meant. I can be a stickler for details. I don't sit well - ever - with people attributing data to me wrongly. I own up to my own actions - but say I did something which I didn't; what I should just continue to let people think that I voted BG because of last game; when I did not. It is conclusions based upon false information. X'd with everything after #208. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-13-2010, 08:50 PM	#21
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Ten minutes. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-13-2010, 08:53 PM	#22
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	++Vanilwuffin For, of course, previously stated reasons... EDIT: xed with Rikae...actually, none of the BeiGe-bandwaggoners were particularly inexperienced... __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

06-13-2010, 08:52 PM	#23
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	So, Izzy, you think that it's reasonable to say that copying someone else's suspicion list and then voting, three posts later, for a person you listed as "relatively innocentish" is the sort of thing to further a wolf's victory? On day one, in a village full of inexperienced players eager to lynch for a silly blunder? Wow. I've seen you as a wolf before, and you can be surprisingly formidable, considering you hold such absurd views about wolfish success. ROFL.

06-13-2010, 08:58 PM	#24
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	I thought we were supposed to be voting for whom we thought suspicious. Not whom had more potential to be lynched. Or did the nature of werewolf change in the last week or something without my knowledge? Rikae. Why do you think this village is full of inexperienced players? 98% of what you say is absolutely ridiculous. ++Rikae You can deem it as OMGUS I suppose, though that isn't the reason. Yes we interpret what others do - but blatantly spinning it to fit your vote.. come on. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-13-2010, 09:00 PM	#25
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Deadline. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-15-2010, 01:52 PM	#27
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Okay. So I'm guessing that the secret role is indeed akin to a WereBear or simply a third party. They hunt someone/thing specific; yet aren't adverse to killing anything in their path? This third party attacked Loslote, and the remaining Metamorph finished her off, in some sort of revenge kill? Or just plot to show that the Third Party & Metamorph both chose to kill Loslote. Dun. If Wilwa and I were morphmates. Why throw my vote away on Rikae? Why not 'seize opportunity and find a plausible reason to vote for someone other than Wilwa', whom would keep her away from the noose? Some one like.. Paranoia for instance. I was the last vote, why not try and save her? __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

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