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Curmudgeonly Wordwraith
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits
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Who cares? What's the use of being a king when you have to always behave properly and respectfully because you have these greater beings hovering about you, slapping dooms down on you if you get out of line? Ingwe sits at the foot of Taniquetil adoringly basking in Manwe's glow. What kind of king is that, I ask you?
At least the Noldor that left Valinor had some cahones.
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Gruesome Spectre
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Heaven's doorstep
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Wasn't that Fëanor's point?
![]() Anyway, as to the original question, I think Finarfin retained the kingship of the Noldor in Valinor and would have done so even if Fingolfin had been rebodied. Why? Because I don't think Fingolfin was the type to have demanded things be otherwise. He would have readily admitted his mistake in following Fëanor, and would not have allowed himself to claim the kingship because of his past deeds, thinking himself unfit to rule over Finarfin, who was also a son of Finwë and had taken no part in the deeds of the Noldor which had led to the Curse.
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Pilgrim Soul
Join Date: May 2004
Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle...
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Elrond did not claim kingship of the Noldor remaining in Middle Earth - of course the numbers were so depleted to make the title almost ridiculous but by blood he was probably entitled - so it would have been odd for him to claim it in Aman. Galadriel didn't use the title of Queen even over her Silvan subjects so again unlikely. I imagine that,in Aman as in Beliriand each headed their own household and followers, but that Finarfin remained as nominal head. I agree it is fairly meaningless.
There is no real suprise in Tolkien not writing more about Aman without the rebelling Noldor. There is little drama and interest in people being endlessly good and cooperative. No, Morgoth, no Feanor + same old, same old...
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“But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.”
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Haunting Spirit
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 69
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I don´t think that the valar interfere too much in their business, of course if they would start killing each other, they would do something but in a regular basis they let the elves rule their kingdoms. I believe that galadriel dwells with celebrian and elrond with her parents in tirion. I am a huge elvenfan, therefore I would be very interested in the life of the eldar in aman or the remaining in ME. |
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