WW LXXIX: Fall From Olympus

[Kath]

Warning: stream of consciousness.

The major Nog/Greenie/phantom argument is revolving around the idea of hints, yes? Basically, that hints were seen in Boro's posts, and it turned out that rather than the Hades hint that everyone leaped on being an actual hint, it was those relating to being the Seer that was in fact real. I'm not quite sure where I'm going here. It just feels like a lot of people are saying 'well look Boro's hints turned out to be truthful ... therfore Nerwen's and Mac's potential hints must also be right'. But Nerwen mentioned Hades not anything else (that I noticed - though I didn't notice Boro's Seer hints so that's not saying much) - and Boro's Hades 'hint' turned out to be nothing. I'm confusing myself. It just feels slightly hypocritical I think. If you'd been right about Boro hinting to be Hades you can't be right about Boro hinting to be the Seer and vice versa - he wasn't both. Also, whatever hints Boro may or may not have left, and whether he was the true Seer or the false Seer - it is likely we'll need more than the evidence from one Day to be able to read a huge amount into them.

In short (ish) - those who are focused so heavily on these hints seem suspicious to me. I know, I know that right now these are interesting and discussion-producing ... but the focus is causing these major ructions that are a beautiful distraction whether for the current loudmouths or for those who are quietly letting them get on with it.

Couple of questions probably aimed at the Mod - do we get any information in the narrations as to what has happened with the Mythomaniac? I think I saw that asked earlier but didn't see an answer. Will we know if we've not got more wolves? Also, there were questions about the Cobbler - is there a Cobbler as a separate role or is the Cursed pretty much a Cobbler?

Then there was the Eonwe/Dionysus business. I don't really know Eonwe's playing style. There are players who might well announce their role (within the boundaries of the game) Day 1 and sit back to watch everyone argue it out. Fea comes to mind. Is Eonwe that bold a player?

I'm glad those who were a bit quieter yesterDay seem to be back toDay and getting involved. In this game I don't think so many quiet players are likely to be lynched - Blind Guardian was probably a bit of an exception and unlucky to be playing in a game with so many veterans who just wanted to get on with it. That said, and despite my appalling hypocrisy here given I'm going to manage one post toDay, I hope the attention keeps up. Like I said, with loudmouths arguing it's too easy for quieter players to slip under the radar ... not actually that we have that many.

Anyway. Bedtime for me, especially as I'm starting to ramble. So from what I've said above my main suspects have to be Nogrod, phantom and Greenie. Nog and phantom have both reacted over-zealously, bringing emotion and sarcasm into play much more than Greenie which sort of logically makes me suspect them more. Nog I have seen act this way before. phantom I don't recall having done it. phantom is generally calm (as I recall) when suspected as a wolf, but I wouldn't put it past him to put on a show to negate that. Nog's 'do you read what other's post thing' I found quite odd and actually quite rude, and despite having seen him overreact in this way before this does seem to have blown up over two different ways of looking at a point - a dichotomy he has accepted in the past.

So:

++NOGROD

And my apologies for being missing toDay. I've been in my house a grand total of an hour and a half toDay!

[Folwren]

Hey....guys? I know I don't have much weight here or anything, and I know I haven't added much to the conversation, but...I don't think that we should lynch Nogrod tonight. I know I'm sticking my neck out to defend him, but I kind of think that he shouldn't be killed just yet.

But my opinion is even stronger concerning The Phantom. Through what I've read today, it seems to me that he's pretty innocent, if not gifted (in a good way).

I don't know about anyone else. My reading over today's posts has been very fast, very poor, and not very indepth. I don't have many ideas on anyone else, other than Phantom being innocent. So, later this evening I'll try to read things better and maybe post something more informative, and maybe vote.

-- Foley

[Lalaith]

Oh curse these early votes. So difficult to decide.
Well as things stand it is between Eonwe and autume for me. Now Tum hasn't even been on today to defend herself, so it seems harsh to vote for her...I'm going to go for Eonwe. As I said before, there's a reasonable Boro-based case against him and the something else too.

++ Eonwe

[the phantom]

Nog- you've never heard English speaking people exclaim "What the h---?!" before? Yes, it's quite common, and seeing as Hades is an oft used substitute for h--- the expression is quite understandable.

Anyway, need to catch up on what's been happening...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Nog- you've never heard English speaking people exclaim "What the h---?!" before? Yes, it's quite common, and seeing as Hades is an oft used substitute for h--- the expression is quite understandable.

So it was not the other four-letter curse that starts with F but the one which starts with H (and thence the christianity-stuff)? Okay. Now I see. I'm clearly too used to that f-word or at least seeing it being censored. Then it makes perfect sense he-l and hades are interchangeable enough to explain the choice.

But like I said, it actually makes it so much better as hints go... but enough of it now.

It's so healthy to find oneself a total dummy every once in a while.

Although I must add that that kind of humour where one changes words in a sentence or syllables in a word is pretty hard to a non-native because the associations don't bring up naturally but need to be specifically searched for - and it thus requires you to need to know now is time to search for one.


Well, I see enough vultures gathering around already on another front so let's end this for the moment. I'd like to have a look on a few things before getting to sleep - and they must be fed, mustn't they?