WW LXXX: It's About Time!

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

No voting until Agan and Pitch have shown up. We need to give the Seer a chance to reveal, if he/she chooses.

Agreed. Let everyone speak.

[skip spence]

Originally Posted by Agan

In a way, yes - too bad for the wolves if the cobbler finds them innocent-looking enough to vote for one of them. But if both the cobbler and the wolves are alive tomorrow, well, they win. And at this point it's about as important to get rid of the cobbler as lynching a wolf is. It's really rather suspicious of you to try to save the cobbler (by saying that lynching her doesn't matter right now)...
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So you're suggesting we should ignore the cobbler because there's a chance the wolves might kill her?

Okay let's get two things straight here.

1) I'm not trying to save the cobbler or claiming that we should ignore him/her. All I'm saying is that it would be much better to lynch a wolf than to lynch a cobbler. If we get a wolf toDay and especially if the Seer gets another dream and lives to tell the tale, the village will almost certainly win. If we lynch a cobbler, the wolves still have the advantage.

2) You don't know I'm the cobbler, although you might think you do. In fact I'm not.

Originally Posted by Agan

Elaborate.

Might do that later, no time now.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Ooo, nice villainous conversational style you've got there, Skip. I do hope you're a baddie, now, because it'd be such a waste if you're not!

Only one way to find out, sweetie! Seriously though, don't lynch me, I'd do you no good. And I tell you this much: I wouldn't lynch you.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by skip spence

And I tell you this much: I wouldn't lynch you.

See, this is the sort of comment that makes us (or at least me, I won't speak for others) think you're the cobbler.

EDIT: xed with Skip

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

If you think he's the cobbler you probably shouldn't be voting for him.

Why? As long as we get a baddie today, it doesn't really matter whether they're a wolf or the cobbler. I'd rather we killed a wolf, but as it happens I don't have any strong wolf suspects while I feel pretty positive about skip's being the cobbler.

Originally Posted by skip spence

All I'm saying is that it would be much better to lynch a wolf than to lynch a cobbler.

Yes it would be better. But lynching the cobbler wouldn't be much worse than lynching a wolf. It looks like you only want us to concentrate on finding the wolves, not the cobbler.

2) You don't know I'm the cobbler, although you might think you do. In fact I'm not.

Is it a language issue or did he just admit being the cobbler?

Might do that later, no time now.

I'd rather you did it if you're planning to cast suspicion in my direction.

Originally Posted by skip spence

Why is this incriminating? I don't get it... If anything it looks like Pitch (or you in a lesser degree) is trying to frame me...

Because it's remarkable how similarly you've voted with Greenie. It looks like you thought she's a wolf and decided to follow her in order not to lynch a wolf.

Originally Posted by Loslote

See, this is the sort of comment that makes us (or at least me, I won't speak for others) think you're the cobbler.

Seconded.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Is it a language issue or did he just admit being the cobbler?

It does look like an overly defensive cobbler. And it's true - we can't know. Even the seer can't know. But we can make an educated guess, which in my case, happens to make Skip look cobblerish.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

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Why? As long as we get a baddie today, it doesn't really matter whether they're a wolf or the cobbler. I'd rather we killed a wolf, but as it happens I don't have any strong wolf suspects while I feel pretty positive about skip's being the cobbler.

The cobbler is better than an innocent, yes– but unless we get a wolf toDay it'll be two wolves vs three innocents toMorrow, and possibly no more leads than we have now, if we spend the whole time cobbler-hunting. So the cobbler's a last resort only.

Originally Posted by Agan

Yes it would be better. But lynching the cobbler wouldn't be much worse than lynching a wolf. It looks like you only want us to concentrate on finding the wolves, not the cobbler.

But hang on, would the cobbler want that, at this stage?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Loslote

It does look like an overly defensive cobbler. And it's true - we can't know. Even the seer can't know. But we can make an educated guess, which in my case, happens to make Skip look cobblerish.

I think what Agan's asking there, though, is whether "You don't know I'm the cobbler" means "I am the cobbler (but you don't know it)".

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Actually, we do. Not as much as a wolf, of course, but if we think somebody is the cobbler, we should go for them.

No, no we shouldn't. Repeat, NO.

Six people. Three innocents, one cobbler, two wolves.

Cobbler dies. Three innocents, two wolves. ToNight an innocent dies. Two innocents, two wolves. Game over.


Tell me how you're thinking that lynching the cobbler makes sense again?