WW LXXX: It's About Time!

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

If you think he's the cobbler you probably shouldn't be voting for him.

Why? As long as we get a baddie today, it doesn't really matter whether they're a wolf or the cobbler. I'd rather we killed a wolf, but as it happens I don't have any strong wolf suspects while I feel pretty positive about skip's being the cobbler.

Originally Posted by skip spence

All I'm saying is that it would be much better to lynch a wolf than to lynch a cobbler.

Yes it would be better. But lynching the cobbler wouldn't be much worse than lynching a wolf. It looks like you only want us to concentrate on finding the wolves, not the cobbler.

2) You don't know I'm the cobbler, although you might think you do. In fact I'm not.

Is it a language issue or did he just admit being the cobbler?

Might do that later, no time now.

I'd rather you did it if you're planning to cast suspicion in my direction.

Originally Posted by skip spence

Why is this incriminating? I don't get it... If anything it looks like Pitch (or you in a lesser degree) is trying to frame me...

Because it's remarkable how similarly you've voted with Greenie. It looks like you thought she's a wolf and decided to follow her in order not to lynch a wolf.

Originally Posted by Loslote

See, this is the sort of comment that makes us (or at least me, I won't speak for others) think you're the cobbler.

Seconded.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Is it a language issue or did he just admit being the cobbler?

It does look like an overly defensive cobbler. And it's true - we can't know. Even the seer can't know. But we can make an educated guess, which in my case, happens to make Skip look cobblerish.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

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Why? As long as we get a baddie today, it doesn't really matter whether they're a wolf or the cobbler. I'd rather we killed a wolf, but as it happens I don't have any strong wolf suspects while I feel pretty positive about skip's being the cobbler.

The cobbler is better than an innocent, yes– but unless we get a wolf toDay it'll be two wolves vs three innocents toMorrow, and possibly no more leads than we have now, if we spend the whole time cobbler-hunting. So the cobbler's a last resort only.

Originally Posted by Agan

Yes it would be better. But lynching the cobbler wouldn't be much worse than lynching a wolf. It looks like you only want us to concentrate on finding the wolves, not the cobbler.

But hang on, would the cobbler want that, at this stage?

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Loslote

It does look like an overly defensive cobbler. And it's true - we can't know. Even the seer can't know. But we can make an educated guess, which in my case, happens to make Skip look cobblerish.

I think what Agan's asking there, though, is whether "You don't know I'm the cobbler" means "I am the cobbler (but you don't know it)".

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Actually, we do. Not as much as a wolf, of course, but if we think somebody is the cobbler, we should go for them.

No, no we shouldn't. Repeat, NO.

Six people. Three innocents, one cobbler, two wolves.

Cobbler dies. Three innocents, two wolves. ToNight an innocent dies. Two innocents, two wolves. Game over.


Tell me how you're thinking that lynching the cobbler makes sense again?

[satansaloser2005]

Also, I'd love to stick around and say more, but my lunch break is a bit rushed today, so I can't reply to everything I'd like to. That just really jumped out at me.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

But hang on, would the cobbler want that, at this stage?

If he's the cobbler and would prefer to stay alive? You're right though, it doesn't really make sense... it's just the way he keeps pushing it.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I think what Agan's asking there, though, is whether "You don't know I'm the cobbler" means "I am the cobbler (but you don't know it)".

Yeah, that's what I meant. If you used that kind of syntax in Finnish, it would be a confession. I'm not sure about English though - and then, skip himself isn't a native speaker either.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Tell me how you're thinking that lynching the cobbler makes sense again?

Like this: there are seven of us alive, not six. Cobbler dead today + innocent dead tonight = two wolves and three innocents tomorrow.

[satansaloser2005]

*blink*

*blink*

*blink*

Okay, so I can't count. *blushes* I'd left myself out when tallying.

Still, if we can catch a wolf, we go for a wolf. A cobbler is better than an innocent, but they're still not a wolf. I don't like prolonging End Game, I like ending the game. And the only way to do that is to kill a wolf.


Blast. And now I have to go. *grumbles* I'll be back in five or six hours.

[Aganzir]

I read through the thread and would like to update my earlier not voting/might vote list with the following:

Definitely not voting Nerwen. This probably means she's a wolf after all, but I'm willing to trust her for now.

I can't really put my finger on it, but it looks like there might be a connection between Pitch and Lottie. Their thoughts just seem to run along the same lines. After a quick reading, I'm not too concerned about them, but even though I'm not likely to vote for them, it's not a definite no.

I have no idea what I should do with Eomer. Before making up my mind, I'd like to hear some explanations from those who said either him or Greenie must be a wolf.

Sally doesn't look as bad as I remembered, but she doesn't look exactly innocent either.

I will go through skip's posts now.