Werewolf LXXXI: Under the Misty Mountains

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I think what you're saying is that Lottie could have jumped onto my vote without my consent or prior knowledge/planning. Yes?

Exactly.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Exactly.

Just checking.

[satansaloser2005]

Okay, so we know Phantom's not the seer, because....well, he's not and stuff, so the reveal at the end of yesterDay was likely either to protect the seer (for which we should all thank him, because we love our seer, don't we?) or to make it look like he was so he could get a pass toDay. Really, though, I don't think he would do that as a wolf, at least not on the first Day and without at least some reasoning he could point at to avoid getting lynched. Besides which, this is getting him attention, which is what he wants more than most things in the world (apart from rep votes, of course, and that's mostly the same thing). So basically I don't think we should pay too much attention to it, at least not now.

You know what we should pay attention to? The vote count I'm about to make.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Sally

Okay, so we know Phantom's not the seer, because....well, he's not and stuff, so the reveal at the end of yesterDay was likely either to protect the seer (for which we should all thank him, because we love our seer, don't we?) or to make it look like he was so he could get a pass toDay. Really, though, I don't think he would do that as a wolf, at least not on the first Day and without at least some reasoning he could point at to avoid getting lynched.

This and your argument about phantom's failing to vote being a point in his favour are both too... conjectural for my taste. Too much depend on your ability to predict what he'd do.

Case in point:

Originally Posted by Sally

he would likely be happy to vote for a packmate. It would make him look good, in fact. Thus, why wouldn't he just pile his votes on and say "look at me, I killed Lottie" and add to his train of Reasons Not to Suspect Phantom?

Funny thing is, though– phantom himself says earlier that he would never do that.
You see, he argues that it's in his favour, too, but for the exact opposite reason.

Actually, there are a couple of points in his favour: one is the rather obvious one that what he did was practically a request to get himself dreamed. The other is more subtle and indeed tenuous – the way Lottie kept responding to questions about her own behaviour with defences of tp, though it's true the two were related– framing attempt? It's possible.

[Nerwen]

Anyway, let's get the voting started:

++Shasta for representative++

[satansaloser2005]

And may I ask: why Shasta?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

People I don't quite trust:

Greenie: Actually seems al right, I am definitely getting good vibes . . . she tends to make many lists. . . Yet I there is something not quite right. . . Garr i cannot put a finger on it. I will have to go over her posts later.
Glirdy; Doesn’t look too good. He is hardly around and doesn’t really commit himself. It seems like he is trying to stay out of the spotlight. . . Of course there is the chance that I am biased simply because he mentioned me as making him uneasy.
Sally: Acts in a way that is bound to attract attention and she hasn’t convinced me that she is a fellow orc. I would still be surprised if both Lottie and her turned out to be SoE.


People I feel somewhat al right about:

Lommy: Not only did I find her reasonable, but her voting was also in top class.
Phantom: Is acting like you would expect him to. . .or not to. . . He is being all Phantomish. He has his own reasoning and always ends up concluding that he a cunning and evil mastermind. But for all his tricks and weird reasoning, I have yet to see something that screams “pointy eared ladyboy”. He has been very nice to me in this game, which I don’t know if is good or bad, but for now I believe him innocent (of this particular crime. . . I still expect him to be the elusive dental floss thief?.
Shasta: At times he seems a bit too eager to point fingers, but in general his post has been rather concise and reasonable.
Foley: I like Foley’s posting even more than Shasta.
Vanilwa: I did not have much of an opinion about Wilwa during Day1, but today I think she has done a good job. I thought her “defensive” post about her reasoning was very sensible and I have a hard time seeing her being a SoE.
Nerwen: Nerwen is always tricky, her opinion is not easily swayed and if she spots a weakness in her opponents defence she attacks relentlessly as the red army during the Crimean offensive. I can follow her reasoning, although I do not agree with all her conclusions. . . she puzzles me, she always does. I would like to believe her innocent, but I am not 100% sure.



No proper opinion:


Zil: Seems helpful, I need to look over Zils posts again before saying any more.
Celuien; I think it is quite telling that I cannot remember a single thing said by Celuien in this game, but have to look through my notes and old posts.
Kath: Not around – Not good
Legate: He seems like his normal self. Dreadfully boring, but mostly sensible and harmless. . . and of course impossible to get a read on.
Mira: Very quiet – A definite improvement from her normally loud self.
Nog : He seems to act like he normally does, but has simply not been around enough for me to form a proper opinion.
Steve: Steve is one of the people I normally find suspicious, so it is actually an improvement that I don’t really have an opinion this time around. I might just vote for him as representative.



I hope I didn't leave anybody out or added someone that isn't in the game any more.


I will vote shortly and then I have places to be, so I will have to wait a bit before I look into the posts of Greenie and others.