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Pile O'Bones
Join Date: Apr 2010
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When I think of Tom the one word that simply won't go away is "outside."
Outside, in its literal form, obviously. Tom is attuned to all things natural (that is, in nature) and to eschew the unnatural (manufactured), expressed primarily in the One Ring having no power over him. But more than that, I see Tom as "oustside" the entire tale. Tom is described (if I remember correctly) as always having been. Eternal, if you will. I think Tom is from somewhere else entirely and, perhaps, not of the music at all. I don't think we're meant to know -- as, apparently, no one in the tale itself seems to know -- where Tome came from or what he is about. He just is, and cannot be explained. I also liken this theory to what happens to me when I try to picture him in my mind. He's a timeless child, impossibly old and young at the same time. I can't explain it any better than that. |
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Gruesome Spectre
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Heaven's doorstep
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This is in line with what the Elves thought of Ungoliant: Quote:
Tom said he "knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless--before the Dark Lord came from outside." I think "outside" could well be the key, and I see a parallel between Tom and Ungoliant. In line with what narfforc said, both are creatures obviously not of the Children of Ilúvatar, seeming to each have their own desires apart from those of the "divine" in Arda, the Valar, their attendant Maia, and the rebels, Melkor and those who served him. Perhaps Tom and Ungoliant were merely Ainu who came to Arda seperately from (and completely unknown to) the Valar, to either fulfill a part in the Music known only to the One, or to independantly pursue their own goals.
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Wight
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 145
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Remember this quote from Silmarillion in "Ainulindale" Quote:
Bombadil (and Goldberry, and the River Woman, for that matter) could easily be such. And, thus, all we do know of Bombadil is what is directly reported: that he was there when the Elves passed that way first, that no one knows where he came from, that the Ring has no power over him, etc. |
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Blithe Spirit
Join Date: Jan 2003
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For some reason, I imagine Tom Bombadil looking like Denholm Elliot in benign (Room with a View) mode (as opposed to sneery Private Function mode)
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Blossom of Dwimordene
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The realm of forgotten words
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I see Bombadil as leprechaun that is a bit taller than a dwarf (physically). I think that he was created for the same reason as the ents - to guard nature. They both are the the first living creatures on m-e, except for the valar who came to visit. The difference is that ents, in a way, die - they becoe regular trees. Tom, however, is maore like an elf - he probably didn't change one jot since any thousand years ago.
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Blossom of Dwimordene
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The realm of forgotten words
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Could Bombadil perhaps be a Maia?
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
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See my post above.
![]() The Downs has gone deep into the detail of Bombadil's nature, possibility of Maiardom included. I believe the consensus is: no, he was not a Maia.
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Pile O'Bones
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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The last time I read that chapter I pictured a big brown bearded, big biceped grizzly lumberjack man skipping around in the forest singing to himself. wearing a tunic and tights kinda like Link in N64's Ocarina of Time but different colours and different hat kinda like Gandalfs but not as big and a huge feather sticking out higher then the tip of his hat. I laughed to myself a lot during that chapter lol.
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