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Old 11-01-2010, 04:05 PM   #1
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Looking at TEW's votes, it's pretty clear to me where my vote toDay should go.

Day 1



He hadn't dreamed of Volo then, obviously, so this was apparently just based on his feelings.

Day 2



I'm not sure if he dreamed of Eomer or not. TEW is very vague about what he thinks Eomer is here. This vote could be, like the one for Volo, merely based on his thoughts.
The fact that he singled out Lottie to tell her she "seemed OK", and Volo to say that he also "seems OK" at that point leads me to think it's possible he dreamed of Lottie Night 1, and Volo Night 2. Since TEW had suspected Volo enough to vote for him Day 1, it seems logical he would have dreamed Volo the next Night.

On the other hand....

Day 3



It doesn't get much clearer than this. He flat out accused Shasta of being a wolf. Coupled with Shasta's forced case against me, it makes even more sense.

So, my vote toDay requires no more thought.

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1. Voting this early in the day is never a good thing, and smacks of nasty cobblerism. Which doesn't surprise me, considering.

2. So what's your explanation for EW's flat dropping of Eomer as a suspect overNight, then?
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:08 PM   #2
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1. Voting this early in the day is never a good thing, and smacks of nasty cobblerism. Which doesn't surprise me, considering.
Vote for me, then!

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2. So what's your explanation for EW's flat dropping of Eomer as a suspect overNight, then?
Maybe it was something you said....
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:13 PM   #3
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Vote for me, then!



Maybe it was something you said....
What does this even mean?
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:19 PM   #4
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What does this even mean?
That he abandoned anyone he might have planned to dream Night 3 in favor of you.

Like I said Shasta, this is just the icing on the cake. The way you and Pitch went about attacking me already had me suspicious.

Let everyone choose what they want to do. If people think I'm evil, fine. I'm not. I have nothing to lose here.

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Old 11-01-2010, 04:22 PM   #5
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That he abandoned anyone he might have planned to dream Night 3 in favor of you.

Like I said Shasta, this is just the icing on the cake. The way you and Pitch went about attacking me already had me suspicious.

Let everyone choose what they want to do. If people think I'm evil, fine. I'm not. I have nothing to lose here.

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Nasty Shasta coming to the fore for a moment -

Inzil, I don't think you could be any more annoying if you tried. I mean, 'icing on the cake'? Really? I find this comment egregiously offensive. Contrary to what you may think, the game doesn't revolve entirely around you.

Now that that's out of my system, back to your regularly scheduled program.
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:11 PM   #6
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It doesn't get much clearer than this. He flat out accused Shasta of being a wolf.
And another thing. He didn't, actually. According to what EW said in his post, he voted me for the following two reasons -

1. "I think he tried to frame Nog as the BW"

and

2. "This statement sticks in my craw" (re: my statement about Lottie which was quite obviously banter).

Both contrived, since reason 1 was discussed yesterDay and the question raised was "why would a Shastawolf go to all that trouble to frame Nog just to kill him?"

Someone's twisting words, and it's not me.
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:15 PM   #7
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2. So what's your explanation for EW's flat dropping of Eomer as a suspect overNight, then?
He had dreamed of two innocents; he needed to vote for someone, so chose me; he then decided not to dream about me and instead chose you. His suspicion of me probably wasn't that high, or perhaps it was so high he knew I'd get lynched anyway.
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:21 PM   #8
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He had dreamed of two innocents; he needed to vote for someone, so chose me; he then decided not to dream about me and instead chose you. His suspicion of me probably wasn't that high, or perhaps it was so high he knew I'd get lynched anyway.
That doesn't make any sense. Given EW's obvious (in hindsight) pattern of dream-telegraphing (I mean, everyone so far has basically agreed that he dreamt Volo Night 2), there's no reason for him not to have dreamt you Night 3. You forget I've played several games with EW - there's something wrong if he's not calling for my blood by Day 3.
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Old 11-01-2010, 04:32 PM   #9
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That doesn't make any sense. Given EW's obvious (in hindsight) pattern of dream-telegraphing (I mean, everyone so far has basically agreed that he dreamt Volo Night 2), there's no reason for him not to have dreamt you Night 3.
My dear Shasta: it makes perfect sense, and the reason for not dreaming about me is that there are almost a dozen people he can dream of. I know it's tempting to see patterns, but first: one example (that of Volo) does not a pattern make; and second: patterns can change anytime anyway.

You could shoehorn your theory in there, but that would ignore the fact that the Seer screamed your guilt from the rooftop.
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My dear Shasta: it makes perfect sense, and the reason for not dreaming about me is that there are almost a dozen people he can dream of. I know it's tempting to see patterns, but first: one example (that of Volo) does not a pattern make; and second: patterns can change anytime anyway.

You could shoehorn your theory in there, but that would ignore the fact that the Seer screamed your guilt from the rooftop.
I believe you're the one shoehorning. Or do you expect us to believe that he voted you just for kicks and giggles?
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Old 11-01-2010, 05:58 PM   #11
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I believe you're the one shoehorning. Or do you expect us to believe that he voted you just for kicks and giggles?
He went out of his way to make it clear that he did not know Eomer's role:

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Eomer's behavior strikes me as cobblerish, or he could be a wolf or a wight. Or he could be innocent. I don't know, but I'd bet he's bad.
In your case, my jewel, not so much:

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++Shasta

I think he tried to frame Nogrod as the BW. Shasta, I hope you're pleased at what you and your buddies accomplished last night.

This statement sticks in my craw,
That is not what Lottie had been advocating and I think you know it. One way or another, you're goin' down boy.

One last thing, I'm a he. This is the Elf-warrior, signing off. Death to lycanthropes!!
Rather a startling change of tone.


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And another thing. He didn't, actually. According to what EW said in his post, he voted me for the following two reasons -

1. "I think he tried to frame Nog as the BW"

and

2. "This statement sticks in my craw" (re: my statement about Lottie which was quite obviously banter).

Both contrived, since reason 1 was discussed yesterDay and the question raised was "why would a Shastawolf go to all that trouble to frame Nog just to kill him?"

Someone's twisting words, and it's not me.
I quite agree. But, my dearest, when THE SEER has to come up with contrived reasons for voting someone, it tends to mean that his real reason is something else. SO that's not exactly a point in your favour.
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I bloody well hope Shasta's a wolf, anyway, because I don't see how we can't lynch him now.
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He went out of his way to make it clear that he did not know Eomer's role:


In your case, my jewel, not so much:


Rather a startling change of tone.



I quite agree. But, my dearest, when THE SEER has to come up with contrived reasons for voting someone, it tends to mean that his real reason is something else. SO that's not exactly a point in your favour.
Except, darling one, EW also came up with contrived reasons for voting both Volo and Eomer (especially in Volo's case) and I think we're all in agreement that he voted Volo and then dreamt him.
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A couple of things worth pointing out.

I don't understand why Form made such a fuss of Shasta mentioning us both in a post.

I'm feeling good about Lottie (not the least because EW called her OK), wilwa & Zil. However if I'm still alive tomorrow, I'm going to take a new look at the others I've been thinking innocent (namely Greenie & Pitch). I'm going to dare a guess there's at least one wolf among Eomer, Nerwen, Form and Kath (listed in order of suspiciousness).

There was something Eomer said before that caught my eye... Oh yes.
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I don't think her fight with Shasta looked staged.
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Reading through Shasta's posts today, Aganzir, I've changed my mind about Wilwa. I think she's probably innocent.
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Let's gather my thoughts, as of this moment.

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Guilty: Shasta and Sally

Other two wolves, between: Greenie, Formendacil, Kath, Nerwen.

Leaning towards innocent: Inziladun, Loslote, Wilwa, Pitch.
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