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shadow of a doubt
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Edit: And pride (as always), he felt that everything depended on him and on Gondor, and if they failed, all must be lost. Celegorm on the other hand was calculating, ruthless and callous in his dealings with Beren and Luthien. His motivation wasn't a great love for Luthien (though he did fancy her no doubt) but rather a personal hunger for power and riches with (as I believe) the Oath only as a secondary motive (that is, enhancing his chances of winning the Silmarils back). With Luthien by his side, and the realm of Nargothrond under his (and his brother's) control in the absence of Felagund he felt that he could forge, or force, a powerful alliance with Thingol and Doriath and thus become a mighty Elf in Middle Earth. And he was obviously willing to get rid of those hindering him, one way or another.
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Wight of the Old Forest
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[EXCURSUS] These are human distinctions, however, and I don't think a dog would get what we're talking about here - for them, love and loyalty tend to be the same thing, but in both their master comes first. I don't see a dog turning against its master and siding with another person in a direct conflict, no matter how fond they may be of that person otherwise. (E.g. our three dogs, who were raised and trained mostly by my wife before we moved together, love me dearly and would try to protect me against any danger, but in a romp between the two of us, I'll be outnumbered 4:1. ![]() As for Huan's impatience, I don't know - isn't it basically a hound's job description to flush the quarry out of its cover, and in some cases even kill it himself? I wouldn't see it as his fault that Carcharoth was too cunning for him and circumvented him.
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