WW: LXXXV - The Lost Philosophers of Maiar

[Pitchwife]

So this was my first time as the cobbler. Initially, I thought it would come quite naturally to me, as I all too often end up functioning as an unintentional cobbler when I'm an ordo, but once the game got going, I found it fiendishly difficult. All that duplicity and double think, without the wolvish advantage of knowing your foes and allies and being able to bounce your ideas off your packmates - it was a nightmare. I consoled myself thinking that as long as I got suspected enough to be a distraction and at need a convenient lynch instead of a wolf, I couldn't do that much wrong, and this at least seems to have worked out.

As for my speculations about the wolves' identities, there naturally was a lot of flipflopping, but my last guess on the Day when I died was *fanfare* Agan, Mac, Rikae, and possibly Shasta (but don't ask me what I thought I was doing when I started suspecting him late on Day 4, I've no idea). Nog didn't believe his eyes when I sent him the list post mortem. Legate was on it too a Day or two before, and I'd even considered Zil for a while (not on the Day I voted him, though - at that time I'd started to surmise that Nessa might really be a wolf, before Mac managed to make even me doubt it again).

It was crazy. I kept seeing imaginary hints in all the wrong places, and probably missed quite a lot real ones. (wilwa, I did notice what you said about the Valier kill, especially since Agan was so kind to point it out, but you looked so innocent after all that not wanting to alert the wolves & cobbler to what sally had said, so it got buried in the self-generated white noise.) Wonder what I looked like to the real wolves - you at least knew about me, but you must have wondered why I didn't respond to any hint of yours.

(Speaking of hints, Rikae, I was thoroughly baffled what in Arda you could mean with me hinting to/about Boro, until you explained it when I was dead. Agan's explanation was correct, of course - it's a vocabulary question. Boro's title was nowhere near my mind at the time.
While we're at it, what was that "I think I might know someone who knows something" thing on Day 4 really about?)

Anyway, kudos to the victorious pack! And Nessa, I take back my words on the thread, you are a survivalist! All four of you are.

Kit having to drop out was a gift of Melkor, and things might have gone differently if she'd been lynched instead. I was quite aware that I'd be a likely candidate for hunting, so naturally I had to argue against it.

Anyway, none of you innocents should sell yourselves short, you all put up a brave fight. Agan, those double kills must have been a Ranger's nightmare! And Shasta, I guess it wasn't easy to pick your dreams either with so huge a village. Too bad you got killed on the very Night you dreamed your first wolf!
Mac, what do you mean, worst game ever? Come on, you were spot on with suspecting Boro, skip and me, even if you got Boro's role and mine mixed up. Not so spot on with Nessa and Mänwe, but such is life.
À propos:

Originally Posted by Boro

and my night PMs consisted of "Mac's not the seer. He's not the seer, just put up with him, *sigh* can't we just kill him anyway?"

So I wasn't the only one thinking that! That's why I suggested him on Night 4. You wolves probably did well deciding to leave him alive, it would have been rather risky for Boro and me otherwise. Not your fault I had to draw the wrong conclusion when I found him alive in the morning...

Originally Posted by Valier

and thanks for killing me on N3....(NOT!!!) glares

You can blame me for that, I suggested it. Not terribly sportsmanlike after your long absence, I know, but take it as a compliment - I was pretty scared of your psychic powers, and I suppose so were the wolves. Looking at the repercussions, it seems to have been one of my brighter ideas in this game. (Sorry, Zil!)
But it was a pleasure to play with you for the first time. Same to Cailín and Mänwe (who faced unanimous lynching with admirable stoicism, and I never got why anybody found you so suspicious in the first place). And well met again, Ozzy and everybody else!

Last not least, as always, thanks and kudos to Nog for modding this! It was huge fun, the story idea was great (and well executed, whatever you say), and I enjoyed your narrations very much, including and especially the music - reading the lists of the living and the dead with Penderecki in my ear was a unique experience.

[Galadriel55]

I (as a "bystander") thoroughly enjoyed reading the narrations, and the music was fantastic! I really enjoyed watching the game as well! Great job, Nog, and great job wolves!... And innocents!... And gifteds!

[Pitchwife]

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Hear, hear! Perhaps we'll get a new recruit for this madness in the near future?

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Perhaps we'll get a new recruit for this madness in the near future?

Perhaps so, but I'm not sure about near. I've considered joining for this game, but decided not to, since the most I'd be able to do is about 3-5 posts per day. I don't think I'd make a great player at that rate! I will probably join a game during a break, so that I can participate more.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Perhaps so, but I'm not sure about near. I've considered joining for this game, but decided not to, since the most I'd be able to do is about 3-5 posts per day. I don't think I'd make a great player at that rate! I will probably join a game during a break, so that I can participate more.

3-5 posts per day? How many do you think people usually make? In my first game, that's exactly how much I was making every Day, and for that matter, I think that's quite the right amount, unless they are all just one-liners. I mean, as long as you post sensibly and address enough of the important stuff, one post in the "Morning" (e.g. summing up what happened yesterDay and your view of it and of the Night kill, or ideas of what to do next etc.) one in "Mid-Day" (responding to the current situation) and one in the "Evening" (concluding the discussion of toDay) with a vote is the optimum. So, I don't see any problem.

*join us* *join us* *join us*

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

*join us* *join us* *join us*

Thank you for the warm invitation! Maybe I'll just watch the next game, and join the one after. YAY! It feels like you're not completely dead until you play WW.

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Originally Posted by Pitchwife

It was crazy. I kept seeing imaginary hints in all the wrong places, and probably missed quite a lot real ones.

We never discussed hinting at you so I can only speak for myself but I was okay with you not knowing who we were and never attempted any communication. It just seemed too risky given the good position we were in after Day 2 and we were quite confident just to leave you alive hoping that the Day would come when your services would be required.

Originally Posted by Boro

and my night PMs consisted of "Mac's not the seer. He's not the seer, just put up with him, *sigh* can't we just kill him anyway?"

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

So I wasn't the only one thinking that! That's why I suggested him on Night 4. You wolves probably did well deciding to leave him alive, it would have been rather risky for Boro and me otherwise. Not your fault I had to draw the wrong conclusion when I found him alive in the morning...

That´s funny because when we recieved Mac's name from you we had already hatched our plan to make it appear that the wolves had framed Nessa, and killing Mac would've spoiled that plan (though we also wanted him gone, no doubt about that). We feared that you would think Mac was a wolf when we left him alive but thought "never mind, we´ll have his neck the following Night instead to set things straight". That almost backfired badly. The Nessa protection scheme worked a charm sure, but when you voted me and almost had me killed, and then was lynched yourself instead, which incriminated Boro in the process since he had pretended to be the cobbler, we though, ****, maybe this is the beginning of our fall from grace.

But then we nailed Shasta-seer and all of a sudden the sky cleared and birds were singing. That last Day was such a relief after four Days of hard struggle.

I did feel bad for Manwe and Shasta though, I really did.

I´ll try to rep people when I get back home.

[Kitanna]

Wow...I kept up with Nogrod's narrations to see how the village faired. The only thing I had going for me was suspicions of Pitch, but hark, there be the cobbler and not a wolf.

Good job wolfies and excellent narrations Noggie.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Wow.

I've not really been able to pay attention since last Sunday (which is when I died, I think - handily enough) as I've been too busy concentrating on not dying. It seems to be going better, finally.

Anyway, congratulations to the victorious wolves; thanks to Nogrod for the huge game and the (probably) correct decision to go with double-kills, as well as not putting Cailin on the other side from me (that would have caused serious problems); and also thanks to everyone for keeping 'wolvery' in use.

It seems I have a really good Nessa-radar.

++NESSA