Mandos Thread: DEAD ONLY! - WW LXXXVI

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Erm what on earth is this about? Is he signalling to a suspected wolf, or is there a meaning I just didn't see?

I think that's pretty straightworward. Cobbler phantom is convinced that Boro is a wolf and is querying Greenie whether she is as well & in that case signalling to her not to vote for him. Which means tp is to proud to offer himself? That is believable, but might actually make things harder for the wolves.

[Nogrod]

Okay, I'm taking back the last suggestion of my answer: he's not openly suggesting Greenie not to vote for him. The last part of the sentence: "so long as you don't plan on voting for a fellow I see no need for me to say any more at this time" could be just signalling to her "did you get my message on who I am?"

[Nogrod]

As Lommy has now voted already, what do you think is the best option we should take?

I mean I still think that if we have a run-down with a probable wolf and a probable innocent we should interfere if we can - disregarding any "message-sending" if we just can do it.

This game hangs on a thread and toDay might be the last one if we fail. But for that to happen the villagers should be able to get one of the wolves up in the tally and we should be able to use our vote around the DL as the situation demands.

That's why I dislike voting for our extravote too early as it ties the hands of those actually making the final decisions.

So should we spread the vote now as to give the DL voters more space to manouver (had none casted early votes the DL voters could choose anyone)? Kind of a dejá-vu feeling, like I had been arguing for this already yesterDay...

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So should we spread the vote now as to give the DL voters more space to manouver (had none casted early votes the DL voters could choose anyone)? Kind of a dejá-vu feeling, like I had been arguing for this already yesterDay...

The wolves know Nessa was not one. Therefore they know either Green, Nerwen, phantom or Angu is getting the vote, and they're probably counting on it being Angu (at least after his revelation). I'm assuming they're holding their votes till he has voted (if possible) and placing them so that the lynch benefits them. Maybe a double lynch unless the runner-up is a wolf...

This is more to clear my head than anything else...

D5: 3-5 (+ they lynch a wolf, kill an ordo)
D6: 2-4 (+ they lynch a wolf, kill an ordo)
D7: 1-3

D5: 3-5 (+ they lynch a wolf, kill an ordo)
D6: 2-4 (+ they lynch an ordo, kill an ordo)
D7: 2-2

D5: 3-5 (+ they lynch a wolf, kill Angu)
D6: 2-4 (+ they lynch a wolf, kill an ordo)
D7: 1-4

D5: 3-5 (+ they lynch a wolf, ranger save)
D6: 2-5 (+ they lynch a wolf, kill an ordo)
D7: 1-4 (+ they lynch an ordo, kill an ordo)
D8: 1-2 (except if Angu was killed it's 1-3)

It isn't looking too bright. While lynching a wolf is most important, if they manage to do it today but get a false message from us they're in trouble tomorrow (because they think they can afford to lynch a cobbler, or try this suspicious person, etc). That would basically give the wolves the upper hand (because regardless of how few players are left, the wolves are going to push the idea of us sending them messages and not stopping just because we're worried about the situation).

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by phantom

If it helps, my last defense of Boro (here), while accurate, is only part of the point. The other pressing point is contained within the first paragraph, with special emphasis on the final sentence.

He's quoting this:

Originally Posted by phantom

Ah, a Boro vote, and a Daughter reveal, eh? Things are really starting now. Taking sides and whatnot... I do believe I'll give it some time before addressing all angles of this. But for now, since Boro got a vote, I will say that there is an important aspect of Boro's behavior we should not ignore, which would be his desire to kill me.

Makes it sound like he's hinting that he's the Seer, and that he's dreamed of Boro, who's the Hunter. And that while Boro is innocent, he's all misguided and whatnot.

Obviously, being innocent, I'd like to see the good guys pull off a sweeping victory. But regardless of my role, this is amusingly fascinating to watch...

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Makes it sound like he's hinting that he's the Seer, and that he's dreamed of Boro, who's the Hunter. And that while Boro is innocent, he's all misguided and whatnot.

Obviously, being innocent, I'd like to see the good guys pull off a sweeping victory. But regardless of my role, this is amusingly fascinating to watch...

Yeah, it does. Too bad for him Boro said he won't be back today (at least that's how I interpreted it).

Either he's actually the seer, or he's trying to make Angu protect him so the wolves (Boro probably being one in this scenario) can kill him without trouble.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Yeah, it does. Too bad for him Boro said he won't be back today (at least that's how I interpreted it).

He won't be back until tomorrow evening. I know what he's doing, and it doesn't involve internet access.

Either he's actually the seer, or he's trying to make Angu protect him so the wolves (Boro probably being one in this scenario) can kill him without trouble.

Yep. Glad I don't have to do anything about it but watch.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Angu

OK Boro and phantom, I think we're quite close to being able to three musketeer this thing out

Huh. Scary. Especially if I didn't know he was Glorfy... but even now, given that we don't know what phantom is up to.

(See Nog, I don't trust him either if it's of any comfort. )

If Angu is gunning for Greenie, I'm even more tempted to give the extra vote to him.