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Old 02-04-2011, 08:33 PM   #1
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And I still don't know what to think of Nog, he seems to be changing his wolf suspects by the minute.
The situation has changed by the minute, but I think it's the endgame now and am pretty happy with Ang - Boro - Sally -trio - as I have been for the last hour or something.

I have to check the game-thread though if there is something new now.
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:36 PM   #2
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The situation has changed by the minute, but I think it's the endgame now and am pretty happy with Ang - Boro - Sally -trio - as I have been for the last hour or something.
No I think that's impossible. If Angu wasn't Glorfindel, there would have been a counter-reveal. Yes Nerwen isn't here yet, but he would have risked getting lynched if she was Glorfindel and had countered it. Not worth it for a wolf, given that he hadn't been suspected that much.

I still say Nerwen, Greenie & Boro.
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:40 PM   #3
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So Ang as the sane person around here this voting ...now fo rthe the double vote and before morning for the woluf -non woluf dead vote?
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:43 PM   #4
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Yep..managed ot get back and check... getting to the top of threads is taking a n age
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:46 PM   #5
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Yeah now for the double vote.

I won't stay awake for another half an hour so I should probably vote soon... I don't like the fact I don't know what's going to happen. The wolves will probably hold their votes.
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If Ang isn't Glorfindel, then who is? I have yet to see a counter reveal.
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How do you explain that exchange between Ang and phantom other than Ang being a wolf. Or how he lured Elron to reveal in the first place?
I think the more important part is why would he have fake-revealed now. It wasn't necessary. Seriously.
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:59 PM   #8
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I think the more important part is why would he have fake-revealed now. It wasn't necessary. Seriously.
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If Ang isn't Glorfindel, then who is? I have yet to see a counter reveal.
Remember, lynching an innocent toDay (not the hunter!!!) is the thing the wolves crave for. Then it would be one choice the coming Night going right and victory.

I don't know how crafty those wolves are, but they could come up with a false reveal to either flush the real one (being confident they could outspeak the opposing arguments if there was a duel of rangers) or to encourage the feeling that the gifteds should come fore thus luring their most dangerous enemy, the hunter, out in the open...

And really, as the hunter was lured out in the open, the ranger is now our only hope as it seems clear the wolves lynch whomever they wish (like they have done basically everyDay - D2 included). We need the Nightkill barred and it doesn't exactly help if you declare yourself.



It might actually be, that some of the odd-loking gaming over there is now the baddies already readying things for the Night. They are confident enough they can lynch an innocent toDay so they have already started playing against the ranger to make her/him puzzled?

I'm not sure, but the way I see it explains most of the posts made while any other explanation I have come up with falls short by a mile...
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I don't think I buy Phantom's reveal. I find it incredibly difficult to see Elra of all people faking a Hunter reveal - I don't think she's ever been gifted before, she's rather new, and I just can't see it happening.

Unless Phantom's pulling a bluff of some kind - make Boro the Wolf/Cobbler think that Phantom is a Cobbler while Phantom really is the Seer who's dreamt of Boro - which could be why Phantom isn't pushing an Elra lynch as much.
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Old 02-04-2011, 09:04 PM   #10
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I'm not here. I'm disapearing until Sunday in about ten minutes. But I thought I may as well comment while I could.

I do not trust tp's reveal. Why would the Seer dream of Glirdan? Surely tp knows how easy it is to spot a Glirdwolf.

I don't think I'm going to vote. I don't have the time to look over either thread carefully, and there's too much at stake to vote randomly.

EDIT: xed with a Mith, a Nog, and a Shasta
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How do you explain that exchange between Ang and phantom other than Ang being a wolf. Or how he lured Elron to reveal in the first place?

And actually I haven't changed my wolves that much lately. I've had Ang and Boro there for a long time (Boro for a very long time indeed). It's merely a question of the third one I've been changing my mind.

Remember, I know the phantom is a cobbler - and he is doing that now quite beautifuly after the agreement Ang told him to take.


The only thing bothering me now is that I was much more confident half an hour ago. There is something enigmatic going on in there which is either just a very clever plot, wrong third wolf I'm looking at or something. Sadly it's so late I'm not sure how sharp I am right now to spot the exact details where the devil lives...
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The ranger's only chance to give us another Day is a save and thus laying low. (and it would have been for the hunter even more!!!)

But if they manage to organise a double lynch then the ranger can do nothing about it.
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Also, the dead need to PLEASE SHUT UP. It's far too tempting to go creep on you. >.<
We're trying to warn you. IT'S A TRAP!!!!!!!
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And we has to vote..
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Sally's posting makes me feel better about her. If she was a wolf she would know more... or be kind of more aware of what's going on.

Which leads me to wonder about Nog again.

What if phantom is actually telling the truth?

Grr couldn't they just lynch Nerwen or Greenie and be done with it?
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We're trying to warn you. IT'S A TRAP!!!!!!!
THIS THIS THIS!
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Nerwen is in for an interesting hour...
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The ranger's only chance to give us another Day is a save and thus laying low. (and it would have been for the hunter even more!!!)

But if they manage to organise a double lynch then the ranger can do nothing about it.
No, the ranger could have and should have countered a fake reveal. Otherwise she might have been lynched herself as there aren't that many options. I trust Angu.
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No, the ranger could have and should have countered a fake reveal.
And what would that gain her/him? S/he'd know that the three wolves + one cobbler (at least one) would be on her/him immediately. How could s/he counter 4 votes against her/him?

Just asking.

If the ranger wishes to really try to buy one more Day, s/he needs to barr a kill-attempt.
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It's been as you know a long time for me but don't lynched hunters kill their last pick? So phantom would go down. That wouldn't be too bad though, after all, as if Elron has the power she claims he is guilty of something.
So a double lynch with an innocent and a cobbler = immediate wolf-win!

I do agree tp makes a nice storyline there about his "dreams" (well, what would you except from him if not that?), but see also the nice work with including Ang and Boro - who have been more than hinting to him toDay they're the wolves!

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Whatever we do we need to vote together. I agree that Daughter is a good compromise candidate (for those who doubt my claim), but of course the primary problem with that from my perspective is I know she's false and it seems to me that she's a more likely Cobbler than Wolf. A false declaration of Hunterhood from a Wolf pretty well invites the real Hunter to kill him, doesn't it?
So that's it then? They want to end it toDay!

the phantom calls for lynching enough people (see the request for if the hunter can change her target), some will suspect his reveal but enough will vote for Elron who gets mad, takes tp with her and end of the game!

And see how he's bringing once more the "consoling possibility" there being only two wolves left! *how I'd love to be there to stand up against their trickery!*

I love Nerwen's defiance!
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