The Valley Forge - WW LXXXVII - Admin Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Inziladun · 02-11-2011, 10:27 PM

Sounds interesting! Go ahead and count me in.

Shastanis Althreduin · 02-12-2011, 05:04 AM

A question - how will you be taking the nightkills of the Forge? It doesn't seem like having one person send in the kills will work in this setup, if you mean for the Forge to be able to kill off their own members during the night.

Another question - what is the King's Dwarf's win condition? Same as the innocents?

Another question - what happens when the Forge is reduced to two members - one Forge member and the King's Dwarf?

Mithalwen · 02-12-2011, 05:06 AM

Does the sweetheart know they are the sweetheart?

Folwren · 02-12-2011, 10:17 AM

yeah, some of these questions I thought of this morning, a wee bit late.

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A question - how will you be taking the nightkills of the Forge? It doesn't seem like having one person send in the kills will work in this setup, if you mean for the Forge to be able to kill off their own members during the night.

Again, I am unsure what the general set up for this is. I had in mind that the Forges would converse by PM and then one of them would send me their decision. I am counting on the integrity of the player playing the King's Dwarf not to send in the wrong name should he ever be the one to send me the name. To ensure that nothing like that happens, the one who sends me the name can also send it to all the other Forges at the same time.

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Another question - what is the King's Dwarf's win condition? Same as the innocents?

Yes, sorry for not clarifying. When all the Forges are dead, the King's Dwarf has succeeded in his mission.

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Another question - what happens when the Forge is reduced to two members - one Forge member and the King's Dwarf?

I had thought the game could keep going, but it would be pointless as the night round would be obsolete because the King's Dwarf would stand against any more killing. So I guess at that point, the K.D. would be able to announce himself to the village and they'd kill the last member. But I'm kind of imagining that the members of the Forge would have figured out who the K.D. was by the time they're down to two. I think it'll be a pretty close game.

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Does the sweetheart know they are the sweetheart?

Yes. But she will not know who the K.D. is. I think that hte K.D. also knows who she is at the beginning. I am batting the idea around for the K.D. to choose who the Sweetheart is...what do you think of that?

I'll add stuff that I say here to the first post so newcomers see it.

Inziladun · 02-12-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Folwren

I had in mind that the Forges would converse by PM and then one of them would send me their decision. I am counting on the integrity of the player playing the King's Dwarf not to send in the wrong name should he ever be the one to send me the name. To ensure that nothing like that happens, the one who sends me the name can also send it to all the other Forges at the same time.

I once played in a game, Eönwë's, I think, in which I was a "saboteur" wolf. I was nominally on the side of the wolves, plotting with them at Night, but my ultimate goal was to help the village. It fell to me more than once to send in the kill, but I wasn't allowed to so overtly thwart my packmates as to disrupt that. Also, doing so would have been a sure tipoff to the pack as to what I was up to. This sounds like the same sort of thing.

Shastanis Althreduin · 02-12-2011, 03:16 PM

I don't know, it seems like an interesting dynamic to me, that the KD should be able to change the kill if the other wolves trust them enough to send it in. What if it's down to three (the KD and two wolves)? Which wolf do you trust to send in the kill? Do you all three send in a name, and majority rules? I like this idea.

Folwren · 02-12-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I don't know, it seems like an interesting dynamic to me, that the KD should be able to change the kill if the other wolves trust them enough to send it in. What if it's down to three (the KD and two wolves)? Which wolf do you trust to send in the kill? Do you all three send in a name, and majority rules? I like this idea.

Sure, we could do that. If we were trying to stay true to the story and what was supposedly happening (i.e. each night the members went out together to kill somebody) then it wouldn't happen like that, but it's okay.

Mithalwen · 02-12-2011, 05:36 PM

I don't see why the KD wo0uld do that if it would hand the forge the game. Not sending the "right kill" is as good a way of saying here I am as I can think of bar shouting.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 02-12-2011, 10:18 AM

I don't think I'll be able to play this time around, but you know I'm always available if you want to bounce ideas off of me and gossip about roles.

Mithalwen · 02-12-2011, 11:05 AM

Any idea of the likely deadline?

Folwren · 02-12-2011, 11:31 AM

I am thinking 3:00 P.M. Central Time Zone, which would be approximately three and a half hours from when this is posted.

Either that or 11:00 P.M. Central time. Which would be approximately eleven and a half hours from the time this is posted.

02-11-2011, 10:27 PM	#1
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	Sounds interesting! Go ahead and count me in. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

02-12-2011, 05:04 AM	#2
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	A question - how will you be taking the nightkills of the Forge? It doesn't seem like having one person send in the kills will work in this setup, if you mean for the Forge to be able to kill off their own members during the night. Another question - what is the King's Dwarf's win condition? Same as the innocents? Another question - what happens when the Forge is reduced to two members - one Forge member and the King's Dwarf? __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

02-12-2011, 05:06 AM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Does the sweetheart know they are the sweetheart? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-12-2011, 03:16 PM	#6
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	I don't know, it seems like an interesting dynamic to me, that the KD should be able to change the kill if the other wolves trust them enough to send it in. What if it's down to three (the KD and two wolves)? Which wolf do you trust to send in the kill? Do you all three send in a name, and majority rules? I like this idea. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

02-12-2011, 05:36 PM	#8
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I don't see why the KD wo0uld do that if it would hand the forge the game. Not sending the "right kill" is as good a way of saying here I am as I can think of bar shouting. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-12-2011, 10:18 AM	#9
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	I don't think I'll be able to play this time around, but you know I'm always available if you want to bounce ideas off of me and gossip about roles. __________________ peace

02-12-2011, 11:05 AM	#10
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Any idea of the likely deadline? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

02-12-2011, 11:31 AM	#11
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	I am thinking 3:00 P.M. Central Time Zone, which would be approximately three and a half hours from when this is posted. Either that or 11:00 P.M. Central time. Which would be approximately eleven and a half hours from the time this is posted. __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

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