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Old 02-23-2011, 04:50 PM   #1
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Yes, Urwen, chronology supports that your thread came first.

However, what is being asked is not which came first, but what this thread is for. It seems like you have an idea, some project in mind. What is it and why are you sharing it?
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Old 02-23-2011, 05:11 PM   #2
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why are you sharing it?
Good question. Urwen, I have to admit you've got me intrigued with your Lalaith obsession. I feel there must be some reason behind your choosing a very minor character in Tolkien's Legendarium and exaggerating her importance beyond all proportion, and I'd love to understand what it is. Care to explain?
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Old 02-23-2011, 05:28 PM   #3
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I don't know about "deeds" (I don't think Lalaith would have done a lot in the sense of slaying and adventuring), but I think she would make the world a better place.

If Turin had been able to go to Doriath with his beloved sister, it wouldn't have been even half as lonely and sad for him, and he doesn't grow up so dark. He'd still be there when Morwen and Nienor arrive, and they'd be so happy! And probably when having meetings/conferences with their allies in Nargothrond a more normal Turin would fall in love with Finduilas and yay- another man/elf union!

And meanwhile the best best friend of Turin, Beleg, would be hanging around all the time and I think he'd probably fall in love with Lalaith and they'd get married too! (I've wondered about Nienor... Maybe Mablung?)

So once Hurin got out of Angband, he'd have a family waiting for him and he'd want to stick around. Happy ending!

So even without actual "deeds", I think Lalaith just being the delightful little lass that she is would've been the counter to Morgoth's curse. Call her a minor character if you wish, but she may be far more important than you think.
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So even without actual "deeds", I think Lalaith just being the delightful little lass that she is would've been the counter to Morgoth's curse. Call her a minor character if you wish, but she may be far more important than you think.
I agree with you on this. Lalaith in COH is indeed what you described (although three elf-man marriages isn't something that's likely to happen). However, the argument is why Urwen chooses to exaggerate everything that concerns this character. Also, why she puts the importance on other things about Lalaith (other than being innocent, happy, unmarred, a source of cheer and love, etc)?
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Well, at least Urwen's a fan of a person, right? For a while I was obsessed with the fox from the chapter "Three's Company" that stumbles across Frodo, Sam, and Pippin and wonders about them.

I invented stories about how the fox was actually one of the Blue Wizards and was keeping watch on things or he was Huan's cousin or something and that he could help warn Fatty about the wraiths or take a message to Radagast so that he'd know for wild creatures to be on the lookout for the hobbits and help them.

I should've started a thread....
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Well, at least Urwen's a fan of a person, right? For a while I was obsessed with the fox from the chapter "Three's Company" that stumbles across Frodo, Sam, and Pippin and wonders about them.

I invented stories about how the fox was actually one of the Blue Wizards and was keeping watch on things or he was Huan's cousin or something and that he could help warn Fatty about the wraiths or take a message to Radagast so that he'd know for wild creatures to be on the lookout for the hobbits and help them.

I should've started a thread....
Yes, perhaps you should have, if you fancied it at the time (or even if you fancy it now). That would be devotion to a character you like, which would be very reasonable. The reason we're puzzled by this thread is that....well, Urwen's started several....
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Old 02-24-2011, 01:20 PM   #7
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I invented stories about how the fox was actually one of the Blue Wizards and was keeping watch on things or he was Huan's cousin or something and that he could help warn Fatty about the wraiths or take a message to Radagast so that he'd know for wild creatures to be on the lookout for the hobbits and help them.

I should've started a thread....
You're quite right that this was no everyday fox, but his true story is only remembered by few loremasters nowadays. To the Elves he was known as Oiorusco, the Wandering Fox, and he had been around since the First Age; the tale goes that Eru blessed/cursed him (depending on your point of view) with immortality, human reason and the gift of speech in reward/punishment for killing Lalaith's beloved mutant ninja geese back in old Dor-lómin.
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Sally- I actually meant "bunches of threads". One in every sub-forum for certain, just to make sure Mr. Fox got proper exposure.

Ah, yes Pitchwife, exactly! There had to have been some crazy explanation for him! But Lalaith's ninja geese....? I haven't heard that one.
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