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Old 07-31-2011, 07:34 PM   #1
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Oi! I was slow yesterday! Commenting about shouting about the Seer after a reveal!

Nice job, Ranger! Now, however true or false the reveals happen to be, you know one innocent...

Now, back to business. How likely are the options Bom listed?

a)Eomer is a fake-revealing wolf whom the wolves went after and the Ranger protected:

There is a chance that Eomer is a fake revealing wolf. However, if that is the case, I think that the intended target was not him but someone else altogether. If the victim-to-be was Eomer, the wolves probably thought that the Ranger would think that they would think the Ranger would protect Eomer and not protect him (what a brain-twister...), so they went for him. So did the Ranger.

The thing that really speaks for this argument is the slim chance of dreaming twice and getting 2 wolves - 100% efficiency! Pretty rare!

b) Eomer is the Seer who revealed Shasta and Nerwen as wolves:

The only way to prove it is to lynch one of them. Unless Eomer is the fake-revealing wolf described in (a) and revealed his packmates. Which could make things complicated.

c) The wolves and the Ranger had a target other than Eomer:

I also think this is the unlikeliest option. Whom? Not Boro (unless he's one of them, so then obviously not), since Eomer revealed two wolves, and one of them would be Boro's pick (which he says it was). Who else would be such a choice that both the wolves and the Ranger would pick them?



There is also the question that if Eomer really dreamed about Nerwen&Shasta and the wolves got scared - would they try to kill Eomer and thus doom two of them? However, it might save the last survivor. If they left Eomer alive, he might dream of the last wolf and hence leave no chances at all.
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Old 07-31-2011, 07:37 PM   #2
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I agree totally, G55 - regardless, the best way to be sure is to lynch Nerwen or Shasta, since no matter what happens, we have at least one known wolf.
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Old 07-31-2011, 07:45 PM   #3
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I agree totally, G55 - regardless, the best way to be sure is to lynch Nerwen or Shasta, since no matter what happens, we have at least one known wolf.
That's my plan.

OMG! Me and Bom actually agreed on something! What happened?

/kidding.


Now seriously. If the one that we lynch turns out to be a wolf, then the other is also. If not - Eomer is a fake revealing wolf.

Unless fake-revealing-Eomer revealed one wolf and one random innocent... uh-oh...

But I think the plan is still worth trying.

What do you others say?
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X'ed with G55. You're thinking too much in that post.

If Eomer is faking it then the real seer would be smart to step forward now. (Note though, that if you are Nerwen or Shasta I won't believe you. )
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:06 PM   #5
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X'ed with G55. You're thinking too much in that post.

If Eomer is faking it then the real seer would be smart to step forward now. (Note though, that if you are Nerwen or Shasta I won't believe you. )
True, that.
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:38 PM   #6
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I don't know what Eomer's playing at, but I can assure you, he's not the Seer.

Ask yourselves why a Seer with two wolves in the bag, which he's apparently claiming, would spend the Day driving that hard to lynch an unknown– an absent one at that?
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Ask yourselves why a Seer with two wolves in the bag, which he's apparently claiming, would spend the Day driving that hard to lynch an unknown– an absent one at that?
Yeah, that is one thing I found a bit strange. Dreaming you and Shasta is reasonable but that seemed like quite an odd tactic at the time.

Doesn't mean I trust you at all now, but you do make a fair point.
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Ask yourselves why a Seer with two wolves in the bag, which he's apparently claiming, would spend the Day driving that hard to lynch an unknown– an absent one at that?
I asked myself that before. And I answered: we have 2 known wolves. We need to find the third. Eomer seemed genuinely curious about Cabbie's role. If he wasn't lynched, Eomer would have probably wasted a dream on him. Plus, his job as the Seer would be to find all wolves. He revealed 2 of them to the village - we can take care of them even without him. While he's still with us, he wants to find the last wolf.

Does this make any sense to you?

Anyways, if he is not the Seer, as you say, you and Shasta aren't wolves. We shall see when we find out your roles.

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X'ed with G55If Eomer is faking it then the real seer would be smart to step forward now. (Note though, that if you are Nerwen or Shasta I won't believe you. )
It's funny how, out of all the innocent villagers there were, I picked our seer Nerwen to frame as a wolf. It's wonderfully convenient.
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It's funny how, out of all the innocent villagers there were, I picked our seer Nerwen to frame as a wolf. It's wonderfully convenient.
Yes, it was. Are you gloating already, Wolfimer?

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I'm not going to doubt Eomer's reveal at all, simply since it all fits together.

Remember my "apology" to the seer and Eomer replied how he thought the ranger would get a very good hint on who to protect next night. Then seeing as even though I said I would be placing him under closer watch, he was in absolutely no danger of being lynched. And a seer with 2 dreamt wolves, definitely a good time to come forwards.

I have no particular care for what order. I know Shasta said before he would be leaving on the big trip, so I doubt we'll be hearing from him at all, especially if he's an outed wolf. But that leaves Nerwen to mess around for a few days if she decides to want to have fun.

What we should get on with today is agree either lynch Nerwen or Shasta today. Get that settled and start looking for the 3rd wolfy.
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