WW: LXXXVIII - Trouble in the Misty Mountains: Game Thread

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Imagine my concussion after banging it off the wall repeatedly, because I've wasted the last hour on trying to figure out this carnival act. I sure hope you're a wolf, because you won't do any good being a martyr, but as you will.

I'm really sorry to do this to you.... I told you I'm just having fun! Everyone's yelling that they're innocent; someone has to yell about being wolf. Well, I sure had fun in the last few minutes!

Countdown begins.

Edit: xed with Nerwen

[Nerwen]

Anyway–

++Galadriel55.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I'm really sorry to do this to you.... I told you I'm just having fun! Everyone's yelling that they're innocent; someone has to yell about being wolf. Well, I sure had fun in the last few minutes!

Countdown begins.

No worries. I'm sure I've caused many concussions and people theorizing about suffocating me with a pillow before too.

Edit:

...but nearing 1am. Totally getting grumpy.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

No worries. I'm sure I've caused many concussions and people theorizing about suffocating me with a pillow before too.

A pillow? Only a pillow?



Well, you've done it, Nerwen.

Now you can go search for the clues.

[Galadriel55]

A cake of lembas for anyone who finds the information first! (and mind you no cheating, don't look at the narration before you find it or you're disqualified)

[Galadriel55]

This time is actually worth dying so early and staying up really late... I haven't laughed this much about WW for... well, since the Revels of the Reveals in Lottie's game.

Good luck with my riddle for whoever wants to solve it, and good luck to the whole village. I hope I didn't make it too messy for you.

[Galadriel55]

And I actually missed my 3000th post somewhere in this madness....

[Kitanna]

I've voiced other concerns about Nerwen. And she hasn't sad anything today to lessen those concerns.

First here's this last minute post from Day 2.

G55, if you're not just a wolf messing with our heads, you've got nothing to gloat about– you did this to yourself. And no, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Who's gloating here? I suspected G55 heavily, but I didn't rub her trip to the gallows in her face either.

"I trust your judgement". I know they tend to flirt a bit, but a Seer would probably avoid saying that about an unknown.

Here she puts Boro forward. I laid out my theories on this in my post about Legate. I see no reason to revisit it again so soon.

Maybe the wolves are using my kill list now.

She's made a few lamenting comments. Including one about us not lynching the Ranger today. This seemingly harmless comment about innocence seems forced. Her "kill-list" was the subject of a few posts, it didn't dominate the day like Bom/Pitch's joke argument.

She had some back and forth with Greenie. "Don't put too much stock in the 'won't vote' list" etc.

Okay, I see what you mean now. However, that second list is prefaced by, "Based on both yesterDay's malarkey and reactions to my modfire plan toDay...." that is, I should say, "...not on my dreams..."

I think at least one of Sally's dreams was on her list and I think that's safe to assume. I'm not sure why Nerwen isn't at least considering the list as an angle. She seems deadset against wanting to use it as a clue. It's not the best idea to base everything around it, but given who is on it and what Sally said about them I think something can be gleaned.

She argues against Legate's Pitch theory. A sensible post without any warning bells for me.

Quite a distortion, there, Legate. I didn't "push it", I put it forward as a logical inference. Why are you "pushing" that she dreamed Pitch– which really doesn't make sense?

Legate, the point is not who is right– unfortunately, I'm not sure we *can* come to a definite conclusion– it's that, well, we've lost the Seer, the best we can do is try to glean what we can from her comments while alive. As is usual. Why try to frighten people off a particular line of reasoning? I mean, it's one thing to say, "I don't agree with you because of such-and-such", quite another to– well, honestly, you're pretty close to threatening me there. A bit excessive, surely?

This next post is what really worries me. Legate hadn't said anything so I think this could be something she thought of after posting her last comment. However, this seemed like a big overreaction after she seemed to shrug off Legate's "threat" in the previous post.

Actually, Legate has been making a habit of aggressively steering the discussion away from certain topics. He did it on Day One, with his "warning vote" on TEW, and on Day Two by stepping in to end the theorising over why TEW had been killed. Not that I can't see the logic of that– after a certain point, such talk can become a waste of time and a distraction, or even a nice smokescreen for the evil side. Still, this is becoming a pattern. I don't know what it means, though– I could hardly call it a sign of lupinity, since the Legwolf I remember is a *lot* smoother and sneakier.

Again, no response from Legate, just continued attack on him. She's jumping all over him, but at the end she recants and says he's not being smooth enough to be of the lupine persuasion.

Regarding Kath: the argument in favour of her being the Night One dream is obvious. However, Sally didn't really react that much when there was talk of voting Kath on Day One, which is bugging me a bit. It may be simply that it never seemed that Kath was in real danger.

I think Kath may well have been the Night 1 dream so this could be my own prejudice talking, but Nerwen seems to want to use sally's lukewarm defense as a reason why Kath couldn't be the dream. Nerwen has stated she sees merit in the belief Kath was the dream, but is bugged by Sally's reaction. On Day 1 how much would Sally really want to reveal about what she knew? If Kath was the dream I don't see Sally jumping over and declaring Kath innocent outright.

On the other, he's certainly not acting anything like he normally does as a wolf. Thoughts?

Again she points fingers at Legate, but backs off within the next sentence.

Hang-on– you still believe it now? Have you read the counter-arguments, Legate?

She continues to fight the Pitch-dream theory.

Like I said earlier in post 151 Sally says she suspects Nerwen more than G55. I think she wanted to dream of Nerwen. It seems a stretch that the wolves killed Sally because they saw this as a seer hint, but maybe they didn't like her sniffing around their packmate.

Right now Legate and Nerwen are highest on my list.

[Boromir88]

Day 1

Gave a pretty cautious, and luke-warm Inzil impression on Day 1. Not involved aside from doing a few IC posts about the guide (and suspecting Pitch because Pitch said Inzil was harping on the guide).

This is perhaps Inzil's most substantial post of Day 1.

Kath's vote seems a bit odd, true, but I can posit an innocent reason behind it, as well as the obvious evil throwaway potential.

The way Pitch latched onto G55 as soon as she appeared is a bit jarring. Would an evil Pitch be so obvious, though?

And Legate Voting TEW as a "warning vote". I get his point about TEW, but that seems like a rather extreme "warning".

Meh. I apologize for being useless toDay. If I'm around, I'll do my best to make it up Day 2.

There was the accusation of me "harping' about the guide being partly responsible for our predicament (which I mentioned in only two halfhearted IC posts). Then his interactions with Bom, followed by the sudden switching of targets to G55.

He admits to feeling useless for the day, but still seemed detached, or as if he didn't care where the lynch went. Not sure if I can explain it well...but just the "Let me give a few names, say some wishy-washy suspicions, and vote. And again, to point out, at this time he made the Pitch vote, thinking that it would be the 1st vote for Pitch.

Day 2

Now, back from Day 1, Inzil had said he'd be better. Fairy nuff not going to fault someone for being busy and rushed. Also, TEW did vote for Inzil (which reminds me Legate argued for a possible frame job against Inzil).

Originally Posted by #102

First off, sorry about that, Pitch. He was the only one I really had anything on, even though, as I said, I had some doubts about his lupinity. The two votes for him coming so hot on the heels of mine was rather freaky.

Not much time for much of toDay, sadly. I'll get on when I can, though.

I believe this was the main reason for Kath voting Inzil, yesterday, yes? The apology does raise a wolf flag. Not really the "Sorry Pitch" part, but he seems to be trying really hard to convince us he didn't mean it "as I said, I had some doubts about his lupinity." Then deflects away from his vote, by reminding about the two votes that quickly followed.

I think this more likely than a desire for a trailless kill, as there would seem to have been more choices who left a lot less to be analyzed than TEW.

His response to Nerwen, who had suggested TEW was killed as a possible frame job and TEW's general behavior seemed possibly gifted. Not sure if this tells us anything about Inzil, but Legate, are you sure you still want to call me the aggreeable one?

Originally Posted by #117

I concur. The Pitch votes (and yes, that includes mine) should naturally be our focus, I think.

Why did I vote for him? I said so here and here.

Kitanna's and G55;s x/d with mine. Over an hour later, Bom came in with his, and sealed Pitch's fate.

G55 has said hers was "out of spite". Since it led to his lynch, that would seem an especially questionable reason.

Kit's was better reasoned.

Bom's, by virtue of the timing, and the somewhat intense interactions between him and Pitch, might look the worst.

Responding to Legate, and huh agreeing with Legate, that the Pitch votes should be the focus and not why TEW was killed. And the inclusion of "(and yes, that includes mine)" looks out of place. Why make sure we remember Inzil is including his own vote?

His next couple posts are a few comments on the mod-fire rule and game mechanics. Nothing that would seem to tell us anything about him

But in #157, led me to wanting to have a closer look at Inzil yesterday:

I wouldn't say I "backtracked", though I did feel bad for voting him. It seems I always end up suspecting him and he's never guilty.

That was his reply to Kath, who said Inzil apologized for his Pitch vote. He disagrees, but really what would you call "as I said, I had some doubts about his lupinity," then?

I think Nerwen looks more shiny than G55 at the moment. Also feeling rather good about Kit.

Boro is up to something. Good? Evil? Meh.

Legate seems to be his genuine innocent self.

Greenie seems sharp somehow. Not really sure what I mean by that, but she makes sense and gives me pause at the same time.

Some more general comments and feelings about people. All pretty non-commital, feels good about some. I have no idea what the "Boro is up to something. Good? Evil? Meh." statement was supposed to mean.

#164, tells Legate, he likes what he sees from Laeko, but not enough to declare innocent. And says he'd be in favor of Bom if voting Bom was possible, but the day would look like it was coming down to Nerwen and G55.

#169, he decides he could vote for G55 "based on what Nerwen says" (if that doesn't look like a set up statement, then I don't look smashing in a Tux), but also...

...as well as the fact that she was involved in the Pitch-wagon yesterDay (along with, coincidentally, I'm sure, Bom ). It's hard for me to believe no wolves were involved with that.

Nerwen points out that Inzil was also involved in the Pitch-wagon and one of his replying comments just seemed unnecessary:

And to be accurate, I started the Pitch-wagon.

I said this wouldn't be something I would be very proud of, and Inzil clarified, he wasn't proud, but stating fact. Still, the statement looks unnecessary, but it was prompted by Nerwen reminding Inzil was also in the Pitch-voters. I don't think I explained it clearly yesterday, and probably can't clarify much better today. But, why feel the need to say this unless, you Inzil, were getting nervous Nerwen was suspecting you for being in the Pitch voters. Yet, still trying to appear unbiased because you were the one who "started" it.

From Day 2 then, continued non-commital towards nearly everyone. Except on Day 1 he picked Pitch (then apologized for it next day) and Day 2, he seemed mostly focused on Bom until realizing Bom would be a throw away vote. And Bom conveniently wasn't there to challenge or answer Inzil suspecting him.

I stand by what I said yesterday, that Inzil is certainly better and more involved than what he's been showing. And in some ways he's looked nervous when Nerwen pointed out he was in the Pitch-wagon, when Kath said he back-tracked on his Pitch vote. And really Legate, you say my posts are aggreeable?

Haven't thoroughly read his post on Kitanna today, will go do that after supper.

[Nerwen]

G55, if you're not just a wolf messing with our heads, you've got nothing to gloat about– you did this to yourself. And no, I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

G55, if you're not just a wolf messing with our heads, you've got nothing to gloat about– you did this to yourself. And no, I have no idea what you're talking about.

I know I did this to myself. At first I kinda thought I was supposed to do it to myself, though through Night-kills. But then things got complicated, and this ended up happening a bit earlier than planned...

This would have been so much more fun if I was a wolf! Though it's fun enough as it is.

Edit: and yeah, if you can't find what I was talking about, wait for the narration, maybe it will point you to the right post... And you'll still get lembas... I'm in a good mood.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Sorry about this. I really shouldn't be this much trouble. I apologize. Thank you for not posting last twelve. In any case I'll have a narration up tomorrow, but for you...

Galadriel the Hunter was lynched. She takes Bom the Ordo with her. Enjoy Night 2.