WW: LXXXVIII - Trouble in the Misty Mountains: Game Thread

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Zil

And you don't think any of the suspicions of you might be justified?

Well, I know they're not, you see, Zil. What with me not being a wolf, and all. (Er– what did you expect me to say?)

Originally Posted by ZIl

Also, how would I be getting framed? TEW's kill reflected badly on me because of his final vote, but what else is there?

See the possible Kit-death scenario outlined in my last post.

Originally Posted by Laeko

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Originally Posted by Boromir88
Laeko's posts look like there's a good grasp on people. But that vote and "so who's going to break the tie?" looks bad. And, at this point, not something I'm going to write off as a newbie misunderstanding.
She generally makes good points, though I'm not completely comfortable with her myself.

You know, it's a funny thing. I had the impression that Laeko was making good points, and was on the ball, and all that, but now that I've looked at her posts in full, I see most of her comments on people are vague generalities like "seems legit". She actually says very little that's specific.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, I know they're not, you see, Zil. What with me not being a wolf, and all. (Er– what did you expect me to say?)

Well, you could say you're a wolf.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

See the possible Kit-death scenario outlined in my last post.

Ok. That's the one I crossed with and didn't have time to read it then.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

You know, it's a funny thing. I had the impression that Laeko was making good points, and was on the ball, and all that, but now that I've looked at her posts in full, I see most of her comments on people are vague generalities like "seems legit". She actually says very little that's specific.

The pony references aren't as alien to me, having a young daughter and all.

That said, some of the things she's said, like this:

But, umm, look upon my cute pony icon and tell me, could you really suspect someone with a Twilight Sparkle avatar of being a cold-bloodthirsty killer?

,

and this:

I'm Alive!

do seem somewhat unnecessary, but I can't distinguish newbie-wolf from newbie-innocent there either.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

You know, it's a funny thing. I had the impression that Laeko was making good points, and was on the ball, and all that, but now that I've looked at her posts in full, I see most of her comments on people are vague generalities like "seems legit". She actually says very little that's specific.

Those were some blatant attempts at flattery and...well...it works. In the same way my sucking up to tp normally does.

Originally Posted by Laeko

Boromir seems to have maintained logical arguments this entire time, and has come to earn my trust. If he's a werewolf, he deserves to kill me for how legit he's made himself look.

I know I've said similar things like this to Greenie before (and probably you too Nerwen). More flattery, but don't think the flattery looks wolvy.

[A Little Green]

Gah. I'm back here, sadly without having acquired enlightenment during my hours away. Looks like it's going to be a choice between Nerwen and Inzil for me toDay.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, off the top of my head, the only reason I can remember is my Day One vote for Kath. And I think that's pretty thin, too, quite frankly.

It would be. More than the fact that you voted Kath, though, I'm unnerved by how you first urged the Pitchwaggon on and then washed your hands as soon as it actually began to happen. Maybe I've been fixated on that, but nothing has made me change my mind, either. These latter Days, then, I'm not sure what to make of the fact that each Day you seem to have someone you get into a heated argument with (whether it was you who started it or the other I don't know), and those tend to end up dead. It confuses me more than causes suspicion, though.

Inzil, then, has been even more of a Mr. Agreeable than he usually is. Very smooth, you hardly remember he's there even though he posts relatively much, and looking at his votes he's always going for the easy lynch. On the other hand, I wonder if an evil Inzil would appear quite this blatantly like the classic uncontroversial wolf.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

It would be. More than the fact that you voted Kath, though, I'm unnerved by how you first urged the Pitchwaggon on and then washed your hands as soon as it actually began to happen. Maybe I've been fixated on that, but nothing has made me change my mind, either. These latter Days, then, I'm not sure what to make of the fact that each Day you seem to have someone you get into a heated argument with (whether it was you who started it or the other I don't know), and those tend to end up dead. It confuses me more than causes suspicion, though.

I meant to make a note of this but forgot. But you reminded me.

Oh, wait going back to the half-analysis of Nerwen yesterday, I did. With the Pitch stuff, I think Nerwen came more of as a standard Lommy flip-flop and not trying to step away from it. There is a difference between what I would call a rambling Lommy flip-flop and trying to wash your hands clean of it.

I mean, to me. Nerwen saying:

On the other hand, his cases on both of them were sound enough, by Day One standards– and someone had to get the ball rolling

Pointing out that suspicions had to start from someone and Pitch did in fact get them started. And..

I was pointing out his perhaps opportunistic choice of targets– so yes, I suppose that's "casting suspicion". Is that a problem?

Here saying Pitch did target 2 people (Bom and G55) who normally do look suspect early, and it's something that Pitch would know.

I think it looks quite different than Inzil who clearly did try to back away the next day from vote. Then at the same time also make sure to point out he started the Pitch voting.

[A Little Green]

I am currently faced with several problems.

1) My two main suspects don't, at least at first glance (which is all I have time for), really look like fellows. Inzil's Day 3 vote could be seen as intended to save Nerwen, but on Day 2 he actually says he'd be ready to vote for Gal based on what Nerwen said, and I'm unconvinced that a Zilwolf, however crafty, would say that so openly. Their toDay's interactions don't look blatantly wolf-on-wolvish either, but that isn't really to say anything about whether they are or not.

2) If one of them is not a wolf, then, I have no idea who else it might be (though, as stated before, if Nerwen is a wolf I'd call it quite possible that Boro is, too).

3) Either way, there is still the third wolf. If it's Azura and s/he isn't modfired, I'm going to be more than a little frustrated. If Kath, I'm going to scream - though Boro's point about why she isn't dead yet was a good one. Who does that leave? Boro I'm very unsure about but if I had to say something more definite I'd say he was leaning innocent. Nerwen's analysis of Laeko was interesting, made me have second thoughts about a player I hadn't really analysed much - but at the same time, Laeko would be a very easy target for the wolves toDay.

Wait. Actually I just came up with an optimistic thought. I have a 50% chance of getting it right toDay!


EDIT: x-ed with Boro

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Boro

I think it looks quite different than Inzil who clearly did try to back away the next day from vote. Then at the same time also make sure to point out he started the Pitch voting.

For myself, I read Inzil's reminder that he started the Pitchwaggon as an only half-serious remark of no real importance. Inzil's Day 2 behaviour is interesting, though, both his apology for his Pitch vote (I'm with Kath on this one, I find that suspicious) and his reasons for voting Gal (what Nerwen said, and involvement in the waggon he himself was just as much a part of).

In fact, I'm flip-flopping like my renowned sister right now, but I'd be willing to bet that either Inzil is a wolf and Boro and Nerwen are innocents I should trust after all, or else Nerwen and Boro are the wolves and Inzil the one I should trust.

The problem here is that I need to go to sleep soon and vote before I do that - and if I vote for another innocent, we've lost the game. (Unless Azura is a wolf and does not appear.) So yeah, no pressure or anything.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I think it looks quite different than Inzil who clearly did try to back away the next day from vote. Then at the same time also make sure to point out he started the Pitch voting.

Come on, Boro! How did I "back away"while still taking responsibility and admitting my fault? You can't have it both ways.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

3) Either way, there is still the third wolf. If it's Azura and s/he isn't modfired, I'm going to be more than a little frustrated. If Kath, I'm going to scream - though Boro's point about why she isn't dead yet was a good one. Who does that leave? Boro I'm very unsure about but if I had to say something more definite I'd say he was leaning innocent. Nerwen's analysis of Laeko was interesting, made me have second thoughts about a player I hadn't really analysed much - but at the same time, Laeko would be a very easy target for the wolves toDay.

I seriously doubt Azura is a wolf. I can't believe that such lack of activity would be supported by his mates. And to me, that surely would be a hollow victory.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

Wait. Actually I just came up with an optimistic thought. I have a 50% chance of getting it right toDay!

You know the stakes. Choose well.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Inzil

I seriously doubt Azura is a wolf. I can't believe that such lack of activity would be supported by his mates. And to me, that surely would be a hollow victory.

Sadly enough, I agree.

Originally Posted by Inzil

You know the stakes. Choose well.

That doesn't exactly help, you know!