Game Thread: TIG XCII - Disaster by the Lake

[Kitanna]

Bom:
Post 1 & 2: Not much. He did say he was going to post a Zil analysis but it was a mess, his always are. I'm confused as to what that means.

And then he didn't vote. The only thing from today is that he "revealed" as an ordo, but who wouldn't say that? He does support Sally's plan of everyone revealing and I don't like that he agreed so quick with only "it can be a mess when people reveal" as a point against it.

Sally:
Post 3: Her first real substance.

Agan is a cobbler; thus sayeth Nog. But Nog is acting strangely as far as I can see it, so while I'm inclined to believe him, I'm not inclined to trust his motives. Bom is clearly insane and, as always, a self-confessed cobbler. This time I'm not reacting to it, at least at this stage in the game. The interaction between Pitch and Agan is interesting to me, so I'm thinking I'd vote for one of them, but that would be agreeing with Nog, another person I suspect, so I'm not entirely sure what to do.

Post 4: Asks Agan to convince her of innocence.
Post 6: Votes Nog.

Today she's revealed herself as the hunter. I don't think she's a wolf, but I haven't decided if she's the cobbler or the hunter.

Nog:
I have other things to do, so in the case of vocal players I'm going to summarize on the whole instead of post by post.

PS. anyone willing to criticize others for not making strong enough arguments should produce at least one themselves before going critical...

Now that actually makes me interested, not that I'm too happy to discuss me as we have other things to do and talking about someone also heightens the chance of that person being lynched, but just out of curiosity: could you please show me some illogicality as I do doubt having been illogical.

Other than that, I still suspect Greenie the most.

That is the easy way out. Give some reasons so I can try to tell you why you're wrong.

Just saying: "blah-blah, say what you want, I just am not convinced" is not the most fruitful approach to a game of Werewolf. Especially if the other person has explained why the reasons the other one claims to suspect him are false.

Btw. Agan is the cobbler.

But I'd feel better voting Agan than Greenie. I still suspect Greenie and I think I have good reasons for it. It's just that I started wawering with my thoughts reading her posting late toDay... although her vote pick still screams to me she was just sweet-talking only to vote from wolvish grounds.

And he votes Agan.

So what I don't like about Nogrod is how he seems to insisting how people play the game, and that's to his model for WW. I found it irksome and at times rude and I agree with Pitch when he told him to get off his high horse. I bolded a few lines that give me extra cause for concern.

Nog is very good at playing the village and leading everyone into the wrong direction. He'd be a perfect cobbler, but for these reasons I feel he could be a wolf playing on the cobbler role. He stated he won't be around much today, so it's hard to say what he'll do from here...

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Mmn– except that you list nine villagers at #194, made before your reveal. I can't be the only one to have noticed that.

But if you look at her list, she writes 2 ordos, not 3. You say you caught her in a lie, but I say it's only a mistake. You "feel" like you're a wolf that desperately wants to get rid of a dangerous gifted, and pulling at every word in her posts to try and find arguments for that.

Sally, you're not stupid. You've just made a mistake - a bad one, no question, but just a human mistake. I know what you mean, and I think you know what I mean too.

Originally Posted by Kitanna

True, but Sally, what if your target ends up being one of said roles?

It won't. She's a logical hunter.

Originally Posted by Kit

You quoted Greenie, not me.

My bad. I was rushed, and I was arguing with both of you.

Originally Posted by Kit

Today: The main thing I want to touch on now is the fact she has completely written off Nog as the cobbler. She does say he could be a wolf, but seems to dismiss this for the belief he's the cobbler. Based on her own belief that he is thus, she questioned me why I said Sally could be the cobbler and not him.

First of all, I explained my reasoning already in one of my first posts toDay, where I said that he could either be wolf, ordo, or cobbler, the third being the only likely option. Secondly, I didn't question you why you think sally is the cobbler. I asked you what do you think nog's role is if you say sally is the cobbler.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Regarding whether or not the seer, in particular, reveals today - keep in mind it's possible the seer has two living dreams under his/her belt. That should probably be a factor in whether or not you reveal.

In other news, I may be slightly hypocritical in saying this but I'm becoming more and more suspicious of those who are just kind of standing back and watching - this situation has all the hallmarks of wolves who are just sitting back and watching the village self destruct with a push here and a push there. So I'm feeling good about G55 and Sally and slightly good about she for whom the moon shines. I would definitely consider a Bom lynch today.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

You spent your two posts prior to this saying how Sally was innocent and how she'd not use a big trick. So...what do you really think of Sally? Why the sudden change when you were sure she was telling the truth.

If you look at the post, that isn't what I said at all. What I said about Sally was:

Originally Posted by Loslote

Sally: I believe her claim to be the Hunter. Not much more to say, is there?

And what I said about G55 was:

Galadriel: She seemed reasonable for a while, but her attitude towards Nog and Sally is a bit worrisome. She seems to decide what she thinks of people and refuses to even look at their posts anymore because she doesn't think her mind can be changed. That seems much more like a wolf, who does know whether or not someone is a wolf and thus doesn't have to wonder whether or not they're wrong than an innocent, who has to keep recalculating and questioning their judgement.

That comment about being worrisome was directed towards G55, not Sally.