An Arwen Discrepancy

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Findegil

Just to nit pick a bit: Spirits of Men go to the halls of Mandos, before they leave the world, and some are allowed to wait thier for some time (see the exsample of Beren).

Nit pick appreciated.

Originally Posted by Findegil

And I would like to add a bit to the quotation of Galadriel, from the same chapter just one paragraph further down:So the fate of Men is certain as long as you trusted in what the Elves told you about their own learinings from the Valar. In contarst the fate of the Elves is unknown at least in the longrun and nneeded 'estel' which is trust in the goodness of Ilúvatar much more than Men.

Yes. But I would say that the majority of Men did not know about those learnings, and that many did not believe. And even if they do believe in their minds, it's not a simple thing just to trust that reasoning with one's heart. So Men's fate is certain - for the Valar and those Elves who talked to them,and some very faithful Men. But to most Men the fate of the Elves probably seems much more certain, because the "long run" for Men is much shorter than that of Elves...