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Boromir88 · 08-31-2012, 08:11 PM

Ringwraiths are being added.

Galadriel55 · 08-31-2012, 08:26 PM

I don't get Rivendell. The others are equally "ish".

the phantom · 08-31-2012, 10:20 PM

BEST REAL ANSWER

Mandos- It's called the "Halls of Waiting" after all. Quite true.

BEST FUNNY ANSWER

Maedhros- Bet he got tired hanging by his arm all day, ha ha!

BEST COMBINATION ANSWER

Galion the Butler- Heh heh, yes indeed.

Nogrod · 09-01-2012, 11:10 AM

Weary (lazy, lifeless, apathetic)

Good picks:

Mandos - To the point. Weary of all the sorrows of the world only he and his brother understand and unable to basically do anything about any fate as that could mess with Eru's plans (well he made one exception though). And like phantom said: the Halls of Waiting... You could touch the laziness and apathy - and the lifelesness almost by definition...

Brown Lands - a good one. You could really attach all the attributes given to it - and the weariness looming over it by both the place itself in the absence of the Entwives who had made it flower times ago - and the longing of the ents projected on it...

Rivendell - A place dedicated to the reminiscence of heroic days of the past where along it's long halways elves recited old poems - and did nothing for an age even if they could have! A place which air was thick with weariness by the loss of the great history and the depressing thought of future fate of the elves felt. A place perfectly suiting the over-ageing Bilbo Baggins to wither away... A place of an eternal autumn.

I can see why to pick if not agreeing fully:

The Old Forest - It was an old forest indeed, waning in a way and weariness fits it well. The problem though is that it seemed not to be that lazy, lifeless or apathetic when it had something to do - like stray and catch some hobbits...

Ringwraiths - Haha! Yeah, I could see the point in here, but in the absence of a deeper view of the ringwraith psychology it is up to anyone to have their own minds about their disposition... ("Oh no, not again a trip to catch some miserable halflings from the other side of the ME... give me a break; I was just having a sweet daydream of my glorious past and would rather sleep over my sorry state."

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Galion the Butler - I'd disagree with him being a good choice. He was lazy and fond of wine, but weary, lifeless, apathetic? No.

Poor choices / can't get the point:

Maedhros - except for the joke phantom refers to it's hard to see him as lazy, lifeless or apathetic - and his weariness in face of their deeds Maglor would have been a more fitting choice... Maedhros played - and firmly decided to play it - to the bitter end. A weary one would have resigned.

Gorlim the Unhappy - weary maybe in one sense, but then again if he had been weary in the other sense (bringing in laziness or apathy) none of the bad things would have fallen after the first tragedy - so on the contrary it was hope and desire that fell him even deeper...

Mirkwood - can't see any point in choosing this one (someone needed to discard a tater I presume?).

Kath · 09-01-2012, 12:56 PM

Rivendell
The Old Forest
Gorlim the Unhappy
Maedhros
Mandos
Brown Lands
Mirkwood
Galion the Butler
Ringwraiths

A lot of these work for weary! Some of them didn't strike me at all as I read them though and some of them I just don't know enough about so I'm discounting: Gorlim the Unhappy, Maedhros, Mandos and the Brown Lands. Also I don't think Galion the Butler is weary. Drunk and in massive trouble very soon but not weary. The Ringwraiths are having a new lease of life at the moment what with new steeds and all so though I originally thought of them as being quite weary I've changed my mind.

Rivendell is good. I think there is a heavy sense of weariness there, but really it's also the centre of hope (literally if you think of Aragorn).

It's the two forests that really work for me. Mirkwood for literal reasons - Bombur falling in the river and sleeping for long periods of time, and then the Dwarves passing out every time they get near the elf fires. But it's more evil than weary.

So I choose: The Old Forest

Boromir88 · 09-01-2012, 01:01 PM

Lhuna gets on the board with The Old Forest.

Next round in precisely 1 hour.

Nogrod · 09-01-2012, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kath

Rivendell is good. I think there is a heavy sense of weariness there

Yes Kath! You got it! Although only half-way through: once again so near and so far at the same time.

But to be fair, I think The Old Forest was a great choice as well - not to talk of Mandos - or the Brown Lands... Kudos for those picking them!

08-31-2012, 08:11 PM	#1
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Ringwraiths are being added. __________________ Fenris Penguin

08-31-2012, 08:26 PM	#2
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,486	I don't get Rivendell. The others are equally "ish". __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

08-31-2012, 10:20 PM	#3
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	BEST REAL ANSWER Mandos- It's called the "Halls of Waiting" after all. Quite true. BEST FUNNY ANSWER Maedhros- Bet he got tired hanging by his arm all day, ha ha! BEST COMBINATION ANSWER Galion the Butler- Heh heh, yes indeed. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

09-01-2012, 11:10 AM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Weary (lazy, lifeless, apathetic) Good picks: Mandos - To the point. Weary of all the sorrows of the world only he and his brother understand and unable to basically do anything about any fate as that could mess with Eru's plans (well he made one exception though). And like phantom said: the Halls of Waiting... You could touch the laziness and apathy - and the lifelesness almost by definition... Brown Lands - a good one. You could really attach all the attributes given to it - and the weariness looming over it by both the place itself in the absence of the Entwives who had made it flower times ago - and the longing of the ents projected on it... Rivendell - A place dedicated to the reminiscence of heroic days of the past where along it's long halways elves recited old poems - and did nothing for an age even if they could have! A place which air was thick with weariness by the loss of the great history and the depressing thought of future fate of the elves felt. A place perfectly suiting the over-ageing Bilbo Baggins to wither away... A place of an eternal autumn. I can see why to pick if not agreeing fully: The Old Forest - It was an old forest indeed, waning in a way and weariness fits it well. The problem though is that it seemed not to be that lazy, lifeless or apathetic when it had something to do - like stray and catch some hobbits... Ringwraiths - Haha! Yeah, I could see the point in here, but in the absence of a deeper view of the ringwraith psychology it is up to anyone to have their own minds about their disposition... ("Oh no, not again a trip to catch some miserable halflings from the other side of the ME... give me a break; I was just having a sweet daydream of my glorious past and would rather sleep over my sorry state." ) Galion the Butler - I'd disagree with him being a good choice. He was lazy and fond of wine, but weary, lifeless, apathetic? No. Poor choices / can't get the point: Maedhros - except for the joke phantom refers to it's hard to see him as lazy, lifeless or apathetic - and his weariness in face of their deeds Maglor would have been a more fitting choice... Maedhros played - and firmly decided to play it - to the bitter end. A weary one would have resigned. Gorlim the Unhappy - weary maybe in one sense, but then again if he had been weary in the other sense (bringing in laziness or apathy) none of the bad things would have fallen after the first tragedy - so on the contrary it was hope and desire that fell him even deeper... Mirkwood - can't see any point in choosing this one (someone needed to discard a tater I presume?). __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

09-01-2012, 12:56 PM	#5
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Rivendell The Old Forest Gorlim the Unhappy Maedhros Mandos Brown Lands Mirkwood Galion the Butler Ringwraiths A lot of these work for weary! Some of them didn't strike me at all as I read them though and some of them I just don't know enough about so I'm discounting: Gorlim the Unhappy, Maedhros, Mandos and the Brown Lands. Also I don't think Galion the Butler is weary. Drunk and in massive trouble very soon but not weary. The Ringwraiths are having a new lease of life at the moment what with new steeds and all so though I originally thought of them as being quite weary I've changed my mind. Rivendell is good. I think there is a heavy sense of weariness there, but really it's also the centre of hope (literally if you think of Aragorn). It's the two forests that really work for me. Mirkwood for literal reasons - Bombur falling in the river and sleeping for long periods of time, and then the Dwarves passing out every time they get near the elf fires. But it's more evil than weary. So I choose: The Old Forest __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

09-01-2012, 01:01 PM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Lhuna gets on the board with The Old Forest. Next round in precisely 1 hour. __________________ Fenris Penguin

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