Taters to Taters

[the phantom]

I vote for 3.

[Nogrod]

So a busy day behind and sadly still things to do so I don't have time for any deep analysis on the suggested taters...

So unless someone comes up with a brilliant idea otherwise, I'm going to pick my tater from the following:

The Dead Marshes - like someone said even Gollum didn't enjoy it...

Tom - one doesn't hold it too likely trolls ever bathe or brush their teeth.

Azog & The Chief Wolf - same as with Tom, but on a smaller scale and less funny.


If Strider would have been suggested I might have considered him, but Aragorn... no.

The idea of the Prancing Pony being smelly "smells like" the PJ movies more than the books - so disregarded.

Orthanc? No. I can't figure Saruman the White or Manycoloured living in a stinking pile of waste.


Your last chance to make an influence starts now - and ends in fifteen minutes.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by the phantom

I vote for 3.

Me too.

[Nogrod]

We know Gollum was disgusted with pure things (and cooked food) but seemed to go fine with many things we'd consider rank, smelly, odorous, or stinky.

But there seemed to be one place on that rank-side that was too much even for him. Need we say more?

++ The Dead Marshes

[Boromir88]

Down near the final stretch, Gwath is now even with the phantom!

Tally

the phantom - 3 (Honest, Insane, Violent)
Gwath- 3 (Neglected, Charming, Rank)
Nogrod - 2 (Extraordinary, Peaceful)
Gwath - 2 (Neglected, Charming)
Menel - 2 (Cuddly, Ridiculous)
Kitanna - 1 (Deadly)
Lhuna - 1 (Weary)
sally - 1 (Chewy)
Lottie- 1 (Melodramatic)

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ROUND 15

Wilwa you are to judge which of these is most "dangerous"...I think a sensible argument can be made for every one of these...

Elendil
palantiri
Barad-dur
Sauron
Minas Morgul
Misty Mountains
Caranthir
House of Ransom
The Barrow-wight
Silmarils
Beruthiel

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ROUND 16

Green tater: Attractive (alluring, engaging, good-looking)
Judge: G55

[Nogrod]

Uhh... what a round!

I'm afraid we're going to need the other descriptions a lot this time around...

aka. dangerous (threatening, hazardous, fortified).

[the phantom]

What a round indeed! These take some sorting. I don't have much time, but in my quick glance-over some clear contenders emerge...

Sauron trumps his own places of course-
Barad-Dur
Minas Morgul

I'm confident Sauron trumps the characters-
Elendil
Caranthir
The Barrow-Wight
Beruthiel

For remaining places Misty Mts trumps House of Ransom.

For objects Silmarils trumps palantiri.

So, we are left with the final contenders...
Sauron
Misty Mts
Silmarils

(Someone has caught up, eh? Better start playing the winner-cards then- I've tossed enough aside where I have good ones left mostly.)

[Nogrod]

Dangerous (threatening, hazardous, fortified)


Let's not be too hasty Mr. phantom... These all are "dangerous" in different ways - and we can and should argue which of them might be seen as more dangerous than some other. But in this kind of situation I think the other descriptions aid one pretty much and make the game more interesting.

So let me offer another quite hasty analysis...

Originally Posted by the phantom

Sauron trumps his own places of course-
Barad-Dur
Minas Morgul

They are all dangerous, threatening and hazardous - but both Barad Dûr and Minas Morgul are far better matches for "fortified" than Sauron (Sauron may go into a fortification or build one around him, but he is not himself fortified in a way a place is!). So actually one should argue that Barad Dûr and Minas Morgul both trump Sauron.

I'm confident Sauron trumps the characters-
Elendil
Caranthir
The Barrow-Wight
Beruthiel

He might or he might not. But as he has lost to both Barad Dûr and Minas Morgul already that doesn't actually matter any more...

For remaining places Misty Mts trumps House of Ransom.

Here I would just plain disagree. With the House of Ransom all the qualities are concentrated in one place and have a devastating effect to one of the greatest struggles of the whole legendarium whereas Misty Mountains are great in many respects but too wide - and thus diluted - to make a similarly strong impression. I mean that fex. it is not that The Misty Mountains are fortified as such - and there were times and places where the Misty Mts. were not dangerous or hazardous... What I mean is that they are too grand both in time and space to really make it - whereas the House of Ransom is a special place that is exactly fitted into the fates of Túrin, Beleg & co. (the concept "House of Ransom" doesn't describe the hill as such through the ages but the pivotal point of these remarkable adventures - being the concept of danger and hazard itself)

For objects Silmarils trumps palantiri.

This I might accept indeed, even if I'm not sure you can thusly discard the palantiri... But just as a comparison you sure have something that touches my nerve as well.


So as all of these are dangerous, threatening and hazardous, I would throw away the persons first (they are not fortified in the same sense) and would then compare the places & objects (which sure were most of the time inside fortifications). I mean that seems to be the only way to prooduce a fair difference between cast A choices and cast B choices...

[Gwathagor]

Black Numenorean Cat Lady. That's all I'm going to say.