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10-22-2012, 04:36 AM
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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Gwaihir - I side with Lottie saying that had he dropped the Ring to Mount Doom, he'd have been famous, but tough luck
 Tol-in-Gaurhoth - I would have saved this as a game-pun from more appropriate tater, personally. There would certainly be more fitting taters for it. Mordor - certainly not disagreeing. Feanor - nor with this, though "infamous" might be even better. Bard - I think he's so sadly neglected, poor second to Aragorn when talking of returned kings. I would give him the credit. Great Goblin - this actually made me laugh, a "great" goblin indeed One cannot doubt it from the title!Shadowfax - meh, just a horse Two Trees of Valinor - certainly. Just like Mordor or Feanor or Elrond. The problem is, maybe there are too many of those "simply famous". The Prancing Pony - I really really like this idea. Again, in the "realistic" scale, it wasn't THAT famous (in Middle-Earth, very small percentage of people knew it - certainly less than Feanor or Two Trees), but in its area, it definitely was... Turin - also more "infamous" than famous, I would say. I would pick Bard over him, only to give him the credit. Glorfindel - certainly not. Sorry, but if you get kicked out on behalf of some Arwen... nowadays, his horse is possibly more famous than him! And that's a poor score. Elrond - sure, but see above. If I were to argue for any of these, I would support Bard the Sadly Neglected, Goblin the Great or Prancing Pony. However, thinking of it, if we wanted to be punctual, probably the most famous by the Third Age was Mordor. I mean: most of the people in Middle-Earth had at least heard about it, while even though e.g. Feanor is certainly famous, the Hobbits (!) had probably no idea who he was. Of course, in the First Age, everyone would know him. But yeah, that idea about Mordor... because imagine: everyone, even Hobbits, or even Easterlings and Southrons would know him, whereas they would not (possibly) know about e.g. the Two Trees etc. So actually, maybe Mordor is the best.
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10-22-2012, 02:51 PM
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Flame of the Ainulindalë
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C'mon Rune, even Legate agrees with me on this!
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 Any idea why he chose Fëanor and the Two Trees of Valinor as examples there while talking about the Prancing Pony? Well because they are "realistically" THAT famous indeed. Actually they are the ones that spring to mind immediately when you try to think who or what is famous for real... 
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10-22-2012, 03:09 PM
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Odinic Wanderer
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I know that this is a somewhat hollow statement, since this sort of scrutiny can be applied to everybody on the list. It all depends on how one choses to read the word "famous".... I would never call the sun famous, but I am fairly sure that most people that walk this earth, know of it. The trees would have been known to many in their time, but I guess not to all, some would only be familiar with their light. After they died, I doubt they were well known to any other than the Eldar.
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10-22-2012, 04:22 PM
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A Voice That Gainsayeth
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10-22-2012, 05:04 PM
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The Werewolf's Companion
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I would say there would be more opportunity for fame in the First Age, not because of class differences, but because the various realms were less fragmented. Heroes of Rohan would not be known in the other realms - but, beside the obvious exception (Gondolin) the realms of the First Age kept fairly well abreast of the news from the other realms.
This actually makes the argument for Mordor more persuasive, though, since Mordor's fame unifies all of those fragmented realms in fear. I'd probably be inclined at this point to say my top two are Tol-in-Gaurhoth and Mordor - surprise twist!
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10-22-2012, 05:26 PM
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The Werewolf's Companion
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Alright. Just to not give in too easily to the trump card...
++Mordor
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I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris
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10-22-2012, 05:35 PM
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The Sweetest Spoiler
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The handsome and illustrious Prince Boromir, Guardian of the Taters, wishes to inform you all that he will not be present for this night's festivities, and bids you all a good evening and dreams of tater soup.
In other news, Rune wins again. 
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10-24-2012, 06:25 PM
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Odinic Wanderer
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This win was bit of a surprise, but a welcome one. I was afraid that I had wasted one of the better "cards".
Anyways is there another round in the making?
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10-31-2012, 08:59 PM
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Laconic Loreman
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Ok...some bad news. Well let's start with the fortunate news that Boston managed to avoid the brunt of the monster storm so it wasn't very bad here. Also all other lovely wights on the east coast (as far as I'm aware) are indeed safe.
Bad news being, I've been swamped with work stuffs and more has been added on (never acknowledge you are still awake 9:30 pm when you're asked "are you awake? I have a favor to ask" and it involves work things...it can't ever be good if it comes after 6pm). It's nothing that needs to be finished immediately, tonight, which means lots of starbucks double-shot espressos (good) but it is aaaaa lllllotttt of added things I did not have on my plate previously (not good). So, summary I will no longer be able to continue running this, or having much of an internet social life from now until April (well not including the holiday period). If anyone is interested and willing to take this up, I will be more than glad to send you what I've done.
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11-01-2012, 05:30 AM
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Blossom of Dwimordene
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Oh, Boro... That sounds awful! Half a year of this!
 I hope it goes by fast so that you can get a breath again.
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