Game Thread - WW XCIIX - The Meaning Of Death

[Galadriel55]

“When do you think we will get a King’s Man?” asked a young man. Some men grunted or shot icy looks at him.

“Do you know what will happen to us?” the same boy asked again.

“Stop asking such questions. It does not help us any,” the old man said patiently.

“But I want to know! I think that they will help me find a person I suspect of being a King’s Man!”

“Do not argue,” quipped a man with thick, curly hair. “Listen to sagely advice when it is given to you.”

“But what if I disagree?” the boy continued on.

“Then don’t disagree!”

“What sort of thing is that to say when our survival depends on rooting out the three malicious people within us?”

The boy’s voice was louder than he intended. Some people turned their heads to look at him. One seemed to have come upon some dazzling idea.

“Hey, were you not the one who threw the first stone?” he asked.

Was he really? I’m sure he didn’t do it because he was evil!

*sigh*. I thought this wouldn’t last long.

What wouldn’t last long?

You not asking questions.

What questions?

Just – just don’t talk.

“He was, by Eru!” another man replied.

“I didn’t know that man was innocent!” the young man protested. “You all threw stones too!”

“And asking all those questions, just doesn’t seem right!” yet another man said.

“I just want to do the best thing! All I want is to get rid of the King’s Men!”

“Watch him argue!”

Despite the boy’s protests, they dragged him to the town square, where the night’s victim was found dead this morning.

“You have done it, have you not?” roared the crowd.

“I’m a good boy, I am!” the boy pleaded. It was no use. The crowd was deaf to the truth. Someone brought out a sword. His head was forced forward. Then the sword came down.

Nothing happened.

I knew he was no King’s Man!

Aye, so you told me. But they didn’t.


ALIVE:

Morsul
Nerwen
Inzil
Lottie
Shasta
Manwe
The Phantom
sally
Steve
Brin

DEAD:
G55, the hesitant King’s Man (modess) – stabbed on Night1
Eomer (ordo) – stoned on Day1
Boro (gifted) – drowned on Night2
Pom (ordo) – decapitated on Day2

[Galadriel55]

As the villagers closed their eyes, praying that the next day will prove to be more successful, the King’s Men met near the edge of the settlement. For some time they only whispered. One nodded. They walked slowly through the streets, making no noise as they went. Then they came to the house of their choice. It looked empty from the outside, but they knew that there was a man inside. A good man. A trusted man. A dangerous man.

The door creaked slightly when they entered in. They tiptoed into the bedroom. Just like they thought, the man was inside. He sat gazing out a window. Somehow, the King’s Men knew that he held more power than it seemed.

“Good morning, sirs! Has the beautiful Anar disappeared from the sky, or did the time shift so that the morrow is now at midnight?” the man gave a nervous chuckle.

“We are not amused by your petty jests,” one of the King’s Men replied coldly. “We do not come here to exchange greetings.”

“Wherefore do you come, then?” the man knew the answer and dreaded it, and he braced himself for a rough fight.

“We are come for your life.” There it was. Suddenly, it did not seem as fearful to the poor man as he thought it would. After all, what is his life, the life of but one simple man, no matter how good, in the webs of history of Ea? His life would not merit one stitch in Varie’s tapestries, or so he thought. And he would continue on, beyond the circles of the world, even if his life is taken.

“Nay, ‘tis not my life that you need,” he said, and his quiet voice rang in the room. “’Tis my death that you came for.”

“Life or death, we will have it!” one of the King’s Men said triumphantly. Before the victim could do so much as make a sound, they were on him. One hastily produced a piece of rope, which he wrapped around the man’s head and pulled until the life went out of him. A pale mist rose above him and floated out the window that faced the West.



ALIVE:
Morsul
Nerwen
Inzil
Lottie
Manwe
The Phantom
sally
Steve
Brin

DEAD:
G55, the hesitant King’s Man (modess) – stabbed on Night1
Eomer (ordo) – stoned on Day1
Boro (gifted) – drowned on Night2
Pom (ordo) – decapitated on Day2
Shasta (gifted) – throttled on Night3

[the phantom]

So, are we going to debate what role Shasta had?

[the phantom]

Anyway, yesterday's lynch was.... irritating. I did a special readthrough especially for Pom, and following that I made this post announcing that I was transferring Pom into the "free pass" category.

No village has ever regretted listening to an innocent Phantom. You know that, right? *grumble*

[the phantom]

Okay, so now that Shasta's dead, is there a one of you that has received special information about Amandil's line?

(I'm not asking for you to out the person, I'm just wanting you to raise your hand if you've been sent special info, and then if someone contests that claim I suppose we'll put the both of you to the test.)

[the phantom]

In light of lynches the past couple days, there are some general, if flawed, conclusions we can leap to thanks to which people are under pressure at certain times etc.

If Steve is a KM then it's unlikely that Sally, Inzil, or Lottie is.
If Manwe is then it's unlikely that Sally, Steve, or Morsul is.
If Morsul is then it's unlikely that Sally or Lottie is.

According to those rules I sketched out teams of possible packmates to see which occurred most often and which individuals were compatible with the most others etc. etc. and Nerwen appears a heck of a lot, followed by Inzil, then a pile-up between everyone else.

So, as a proven innocent that will be killed by the KMs fairly soon, can I make a request of you folks? I'd like to see everyone give some sort of analysis on Nerwen and Inzil, and then pick a third individual that you for certain think is guilty.

[Mänwe]

Originally Posted by the phantom

I'd like to see everyone give some sort of analysis on Nerwen and Inzil, and then pick a third individual that you for certain think is guilty.

Looking back at the votes and late suspicions on the last vote, the known innocents were rather split on their thoughts, you voted Lottie first day phantom.

And wow, an early vote from Morsul. That's irritating if he won't be around much for the rest of toDay.

edit: x' d with all of the above

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Okay, so now that Shasta's dead, is there a one of you that has received special information about Amandil's line?

(I'm not asking for you to out the person, I'm just wanting you to raise your hand if you've been sent special info, and then if someone contests that claim I suppose we'll put the both of you to the test.)

I have the info. I don't know how active I can be at the moment though. I'm away from home and working from a smartphone.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Okay, so now that Shasta's dead, is there a one of you that has received special information about Amandil's line?

Putting this out there now: I didn't get any new information last Night. Sorry I can't help out more.

Originally Posted by the phantom

No village has ever regretted listening to an innocent Phantom. You know that, right? *grumble*

And no village has ever lynched an innocent Sally and come up victorious. You know that, right? *grumbles right back*

I am sorry about Pom though. I waited too long to vote; if I'd put Morsul up earlier in the Day, I think we would have had a chance at him, but either was a good candidate in my eyes at the time, so I didn't press the issue.


EDIT: x'd since 321

[Eönwë]

Will be back later, with more thoughts.

[Morsul the Dark]

Here for two minutes between errands.

Note: I'm putting assumed there because it's not 100% confirmed but pretty much accepted.

list:

Known Innocents:
Phantom
Brinn

Assumed Innocents:
Lottie
Inzil

Assumed evil
Nerwen

That leaves at least two packmates.
Sally
Manwe
Steve

Right now I'm thinking Sally Steve However if I'm wrong and Sally is in fact innocent then clearly Steve Manwe

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Um....okay? Should I stick around for a bit?

I will PM the gifted(s) that might be affected, so that everyone won't have to sit around waiting.

Therefore, if you do not get a PM, your role will not be changed.

And, no Zil, hopefully earlier than 2 minutes before DL.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Here for two minutes between errands.

Note: I'm putting assumed there because it's not 100% confirmed but pretty much accepted.

list:

Known Innocents:
Phantom
Brinn

Assumed Innocents:
Lottie
Inzil

Assumed evil
Nerwen

That leaves at least two packmates.
Sally
Manwe
Steve

Right now I'm thinking Sally Steve However if I'm wrong and Sally is in fact innocent then clearly Steve Manwe

Lottie isn't an assumed innocent. Even if she's telling the truth, she could still be a wolf who's just throwing her packmate under the bus to make herself seem legit.

[satansaloser2005]

Morsul-->Sally
Lottie-->Nerwen
Nerwen-->Lottie
Sally-->Nerwen (2)

Yet to vote: Dun, Manwe, Phantom, Steve, Brinn

[Eönwë]

It's just my luck that the Day where everything happens is the Day I have the least time for. Well, I should be here until DL now.

So, before I embark on the epic reread I meant to do earlier toDay to check some of my theories/suspicions, is there anything I need to do before we get to the next step of reveals and such?

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by phantom

So, are we going to debate what role Shasta had?

Hmm...well, that's a tough one. I'll have to think about it.

phantom, should I assume that you didn't receive a dream last Night? Then we can pretty much confirm that Boro was indeed Elendil...not that it's any surprise.

Originally Posted by Morsul

So Pom was Ordo which means to me anyway Sally is evil Nerwen is evil and probably ZIl.

Wow, you really think all three baddies would hop on the Pom bandwagon? I doubt it.

I do feel fairly confident that at least one baddie took part in getting Pom lynched, for reasons I stated yesterDay. And when I say this, I don't mean just those who voted her, but anyone who contributed to the bandwagon. Because a baddie can manipulate a lynch without actually voting the target lynchee.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Brin

phantom, should I assume that you didn't receive a dream last Night? Then we can pretty much confirm that Boro was indeed Elendil...not that it's any surprise.

Heh heh- if I had received a dream I probably would PMed back, "Um, are you sure?"

Originally Posted by Brin

Wow, you really think all three baddies would hop on the Pom bandwagon? I doubt it.

Well, Inzil voted early for Steve I believe, so that would only be two on the wagon, which would be an understandable number if in fact the threatened Sally was a KM.

Btw, you're not obligated to answer my questions, Brin, since you're a proven innocent.

[the phantom]

Well, Inzil, that would be quite helpful indeed if you are indeed innocent, as that would rule out several potential packs.

Don't out the person yet, though, as they may be unprepared at this time. Give it a while and see if anyone tries to refute your claim.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Well, Inzil, that would be quite helpful indeed if you are indeed innocent, as that would rule out several potential packs.

Don't out the person yet, though, as they may be unprepared at this time. Give it a while and see if anyone tries to refute your claim.

Roger that, sir.

[the phantom]

Isildur- make sure you're ready to reveal at some point later today if it's necessary. I'm hoping you have some markers to point back to in case we need proof. I already requested that the Ordo information-recipient not out you, so you should have a bit of time to prepare, anyway.

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Hmm...well, that's a tough one. I'll have to think about it.

phantom, should I assume that you didn't receive a dream last Night? Then we can pretty much confirm that Boro was indeed Elendil...not that it's any surprise.


Wow, you really think all three baddies would hop on the Pom bandwagon? I doubt it.

I do feel fairly confident that at least one baddie took part in getting Pom lynched, for reasons I stated yesterDay. And when I say this, I don't mean just those who voted her, but anyone who contributed to the bandwagon. Because a baddie can manipulate a lynch without actually voting the target lynchee.

It's at the point that even if one innocent makes a mistake(me) then as long as they vote together it's not that hard to outvote everyone else.

[Brinniel]

YesterDay's Voting:

Italics = known innocent
Underlined = deceased

Pom ++ Sally
Morsul ++ Pom
Inzil ++ Steve
Shasta ++ Pom
Manwe ++ Morsul
Brinn ++ Inzil
Nerwen ++ Pom
phantom ++ Sally
Loslote ++ Sally
Sally ++ Pom
Eonwe ++ Inzil *

*didn't count

X-ed with phantom

[satansaloser2005]

Day One

Eomer-->Sally
Pom-->Dun
Shasta-->Steve
Dun-->Eomer
Lottie-->Steve (2)
Morsul-->Sally (2)
Boro-->Lottie
Brinn-->Eomer (2)
Sally-->Eomer (3)
Phantom-->Lottie (2)
Steve-->Eomer (4)

Didn't vote: Manwe, Nerwen


Day Two

Pom-->Sally
Morsul-->Pom
Dun-->Steve
Shasta-->Pom (2)
Manwe-->Morsul
Brinn-->Dun
Nerwen-->Pom (3)
Phantom-->Sally (2)
Lottie-->Sally (3)
Sally-->Pom (4)
Steve-->Dun (2)*

*Vote was past DL.


Morsul: Sally, Pom
Nerwen: no vote, Pom
Dun: Eomer, Steve
Lottie: Steve, Sally
Shasta: Steve, Pom
Manwe: no vote, Morsul
Pom: Dun, Sally
Phantom: Lottie, Sally
Sally: Eomer, Pom
Eomer: Sally, N/A
Boro: Lottie, N/A
Steve: Eomer, Dun (voted after DL)
Brinn: Eomer, Dun


Known innocents (minus Dun and myself, for obvious reasons) are italicized. I'd have underlined known villains, but we don't have any. >.<



x'd since my last

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by phantom

Well, Inzil voted early for Steve I believe, so that would only be two on the wagon, which would be an understandable number if in fact the threatened Sally was a KM.

Inzil was seriously considering voting Pom though, which is why I count him as part of the bandwagon.

Darn it, Inzil. I was all ready to suspect you toDay and then you just had to go and do that.

I wonder if a baddie would risk falsely claiming the info. But unless we do have a counter-claim, I'm leaving Inzil alone.

Edit: X-ed with Sally

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Brin

I wonder if a baddie would risk falsely claiming the info.

Dunno... I was going to run a trial of it in my head yesterday but just never got to it, so I haven't really thought about it at all.

If anyone else has considered it, by all means give your thoughts.

Originally Posted by Brin

But unless we do have a counter-claim, I'm leaving Inzil alone.

Quite right.

[Mänwe]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

But unless we do have a counter-claim, I'm leaving Inzil alone.

Edit: X-ed with Sally

Yup.

Heh, early vote Morsul. Who has been targeted by and who has targeted Sally in the past few days. Gah.

edit: x'd with the above until last post.

well i've lumped the morsul, sally, pom and steve in the wishy washy. You voted Lottie first night, and i've not looked at her properly yet (or Nerwen) and will do later toDay so will be back later.

[Morsul the Dark]

So Pom was Ordo which means to me anyway Sally is evil Nerwen is evil and probably ZIl. Nerwen and Sally keep suspecting me but never vote me. I mentioned I'm an easy lynch and useful at a critical moment for the KM well we could have worst case scenario two bad lynches till game's end so frankly now's my final stand as an innocent I have to go with what I think what I'm sure of. I will have really no time for this day so in case I can't get back by DL:

++Sally

Yeah I'm that sure.