Game Thread - WW XCIIX - The Meaning Of Death

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Sally- didn't you say last night that you had a very important observation to share?

Indeed, but I'll have to wait on Dun. The good news is I'll be around for the rest of the day. Hopefully the lynch won't get too crazy, but if it does, I'll see what I can do to help.

Off to fill my grumbling stomach.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Sally

Indeed, but I'll have to wait on Dun.

What do you mean, it has to wait on him?

He's proven innocent. No one challenged. Therefore he has no need to give out his info. Are you trying to force him?

[satansaloser2005]

It's not an issue of me trusting him at all. In fact, quite the opposite.

Are you even around at present, Dun?


EDIT: x'd with Dun. How convenient.

[the phantom]

Inzil and Brin (and if anyone else wants to give thoughts on this you're welcome), what are the pros and cons of Gifteds revealing? Here's a bit of my thinking-

Scenario: Isildur and Anarion both reveal
Pros: We would know Lottie is lying, or that one of the reveals is lying (if Elendil then steps forward). The lynch list would be smaller. If Elendil is still alive Anarion could tell him who he is able to protect.
Cons: The KMs would have more kill choices thus it would be more difficult to predict for Anarion if he's alive.

What else can you guys add to this?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

It's not an issue of me trusting him at all. In fact, quite the opposite.

Are you even around at present, Dun?

I am here for the moment. I think whether I tell what I know is tied to this from tp:

Originally Posted by the phantom

Inzil and Brin (and if anyone else wants to give thoughts on this you're welcome), what are the pros and cons of Gifteds revealing? Here's a bit of my thinking-

Scenario: Isildur and Anarion both reveal
Pros: We would know Lottie is lying, or that one of the reveals is lying (if Elendil then steps forward). The lynch list would be smaller. If Elendil is still alive Anarion could tell him who he is able to protect.
Cons: The KMs would have more kill choices thus it would be more difficult to predict for Anarion if he's alive.

I see the positives, but also the opportunity for a lot of chaos. If Anarion is known, probably he would be the next kill, as I don't think he can self-protect.
Then again, narrowing the field at this stage works in the innocents' favor, I think.
And in the event of double-reveals, hopefully my knowledge could be useful.

[Inziladun]

Actually, would our two Gifteds necessarily have to say who they specifically were? Or would it be enough to know they were Gifted? Just thinking aloud, trying to keep as much useful data as possible from those who shouldn't get it.

x/d with tp and Sally

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Actually, would our two Gifteds necessarily have to say who they specifically were? Or would it be enough to know they were Gifted? Just thinking aloud, trying to keep as much useful data as possible from those who shouldn't get it.

x/d with tp and Sally

Not necessarily, especially the ranger. In fact, I think the ranger should stay silent unless they are threatened toDay.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Inzil

Actually, would our two Gifteds necessarily have to say who they specifically were? Or would it be enough to know they were Gifted? Just thinking aloud, trying to keep as much useful data as possible from those who shouldn't get it.

Indeed... They would only have to specify if challenged, as I would assume their proof would demand revealing their role.

Sally- while your demands on Inzil look suspicious, I do realize you could have innocent intent. For instance, if you found clear Isildur hints in someone's posts, you could operate on the theory that he/she was Isildur and thus if Inzil could narrow down who his info was on, and if it wasn't on that particular person, you would then know for certain whether the village still had Anarion or Elendil, right? Because if Elendil is still alive Inzil would not know Isildur, but if it was Anarion still alive then he would know Isildur.

Am I guessing your theory correctly? I've been working on the same project...

[Inziladun]

The problem with my doing a list like you want, Sally, is that by elimination it would narrow down the possibilities of who I know is innocent. I don't know about that.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom, re: Dun

Are you trying to force him?

Um....maybe?

I think getting a list from him would give me what I need though. Maybe. Ish. See, I have this theory, but I can't prove it yet. I guess I could just share what I know, but I'd rather have Dun show his cards (or at least let me peek) first to be safe. Luckily I'm not in a terrible rush, so I suppose I can wait until he's ready.

Done making wonderful food. Until I get back (found a mess in the kitchen when I got home, so I'll be working on that for a bit), keep up with Phantom's plans. Rather hoping Dun will trust me enough to at least make a list.


EDIT: x'd with Dun again (and also Phantom). Gee, this is getting to be a habit.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Indeed, but I'll have to wait on Dun. The good news is I'll be around for the rest of the day.

Interesting. I'd still like input from our innocents first though.

Edit- What phantom said.