Game Thread - WW XCIIX - The Meaning Of Death

[Loslote]

It's been quiet for too long. Might as well get the ball rolling. From what I can tell, we've come to pretty clear consensus in favor of (or, well, in favor of lynching) Steve. Correct?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Loslote

It's been quiet for too long. Might as well get the ball rolling. From what I can tell, we've come to pretty clear consensus in favor of (or, well, in favor of lynching) Steve. Correct?

I was about to say the same thing. I was interested to see if Steve would make any effort to defend himself.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Inzil

I was about to say the same thing. I was interested to see if Steve would make any effort to defend himself.

It's interesting, I think most people have placed him as their prime lynch candidate, yet he hasn't given the slightest reaction to the possibility that he might get lynched.

[Morsul the Dark]

I'll be back before DL to vote but I'm out for a bit. See if Steve can make a compelling argument(That would meanLottie Manwe, I'd be surprised

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

I was about to say the same thing. I was interested to see if Steve would make any effort to defend himself.

In what way? There aren't really any suspicions I can defend myself against. And if you really think my death will tell you a lot, then maybe it's worth it for the village.

[Inziladun]

Well, I thought you might want to address this or this.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Well, I thought you might want to address this or this.

The only claims they make are based on interpretation of certain events, so there's not really any proof as such either way.

In Brinn's post, I don't know why Nerwen voted Pom over me. I don't see how I can address that. As for the last part, I already explained my process of elimation at the time:

Originally Posted by Eönwë

General comments: There's not going to be time for me to look through everyone, it seems. Manwe has said too little anyway, so there's not much I can say. Morsul seems just like a very skittish innocent at the moment, because I imagine a wolf would be more concerned with convincing others than himself. So that leaves Nerwen, Zil and Lottie for me to look at, and even then, only briefly (half an hour to DL).

None of them seemed particularly innocent, so those were the options I had.


In Phantom's post, the only thing I can address is why I ended up voting after the deadline. I didn't mean to, obviously, but since there were quite a few people who seemed to suspect "x and steve", I thought it would be best to wait. I couldn't bring myself to vote Sally, after my analysis of her found her innocent, so I voted for my top suspect at the time, you.

[Eönwë]

Also, answer this: If Sally wasn't a known innocent, why did she get killed? Now we have 4 unknowns with two KMs. Hardly an optimal situation for them. My suggestion is that since everyone seemed to trust Sally yesterDay, she became a sort of pseudo-known, and as we know, Elendil (if he's alive) really did put his trust in her, as would be expected. But if it had gone through, I find it highly likely that Lottie would have been the target, so as to restart a new chain. Of course, it only works if the KMs suspect that there still is an Elendil, but as phantom has been saying, it often pays for them to be paranoid on that front.

[the phantom]

Okay, so here's what it comes down to-

Frankly Lottie and Morsul both have more strikes against them, but the thing is it's because they've thrown themselves out there a bit more. I can say a greater number of both positive and negative things about them.

Manwe and Steve seem more non-committal, and I wonder if that's a sign of evil or if it's a hint of disinterest from someone with no role. Their votes seem pretty safe and they both missed one, so strictly on principle (in terms of enforcing the Barrow-Downs gaming standard) they would be the obvious targets, as I'm more content to let a Baddie win if they're noisy and running bold bluffs.

Anyway, the fact that they also seem slightly detached today with their necks on the line... I mean wouldn't an Ordo in danger of being lynched and losing be a bit more... Morsul-ish?

Anyway, less than 30 minutes to vote, and we don't want to wait until the very final minute. So guys- last chance. Make accusations. Toss out theories. Make pleas. Whatever you're going to do, this is it.

[the phantom]

Eonwe- are you saying that the only reason Sally would've died is if Lottie is a KM due to the likelihood of Elendil continuing down the chain? (Just trying to see clearly what you're getting at. But of course if Lottie is a KM she could've made up the whole Elendil thing...)

[Inziladun]

Lottie gave us Nerwen, so to me that alone gives her more of an innocent feel than the others.

Morsul, if he is a KM, has been very reckless. Could it have been with calculation, hoping everyone would say "That's just Morsul"? Yes. Could he be his usual "suspicious innocent" self? Yes.

Mänwe really is a blank to me, and that's worrisome. I haven't really played with him enough to know his "normal" style, so I'm having to focus on the mere fact that he's really been the grey man here, easy to forget. That's a great ploy for a baddie.

And Steve. The suspicions against him could indeed be explained in a way to make him look innocent.
Then again, it seems to me that he just hasn't been as sharp and probing as I'm used to. I think I'm still ready to make him the choice for toDay, but I'd like to see what others think.

x/d with tp and Steve

[Mänwe]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Frankly Lottie and Morsul both have more strikes against them, but the thing is it's because they've thrown themselves out there a bit more. I can say a greater number of both positive and negative things about them.

There's something to be said in that, but i'm surprised he's been given such an easy ride lately, his style it may be but he's been very erratic this game. Just as hard to pin down as it is someone who hasn't behaved the same way.