Elrond - broke or a stingy old dude

[Mithalwen]

This just isn't true. Elrond provides generous hospitality for over a month to the fellowship as well as to Bilbo for life. When the fellowship leaves "All were well furnished by Elrond with thick warm clothes, and they had jackets and cloaks lined with fur. Spare food and clothes and blankets and other needs were laden on a pony." The pony is told by Sam that he should have stayed in Rivendell and eaten the best hay till Spring.

Lembas is in part a linguistic joke related to the origin of the word lady as meaning giver of bread. In The peoples of Middle earth Tolkien explains the origin of lembas and why it was the gift ofhigh ranking elven women only.

Tolkien bothered about the details -that is partly the reason that he published two books set in Middle Earth in his lifetime and fifteen substantial volumes of drafts essays and unfinished work have been published since.

On a side note the books forum is intended for relatively formal text based discussion. Speculation and a more relaxed style are better suited to novices and newcomers. Also should be remembered that there is a wide range of ages and cultural background here and slang should be used with caution.

[elbenprincess]

It´s just the the gifts Galadriel gave them were in the end more important than Elronds gifts, so one can easily overlook Elronds gifts.

And Lembas only Galadriel could give, at least im ME I would think. I have no idea if Galadriel teached Arwen to do it, but I would guess she did, cause Arwen would be Queen soon, and Lembas is a queenly gift.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by elbenprincess

It´s just the the gifts Galadriel gave them were in the end more important than Elronds gifts, so one can easily overlook Elronds gifts.

And Lembas only Galadriel could give, at least im ME I would think. I have no idea if Galadriel teached Arwen to do it, but I would guess she did, cause Arwen would be Queen soon, and Lembas is a queenly gift.

However it is the gift of elvish queens and in becoming a queen Arwen became mortal which may have caused her to lose the privilege. Or it may be that even in absentia Celebrian was regarded as first lady of imladris and arwen was not entitled. However I suspect the skill may have left middle earth with Galadriel.

[Bêthberry]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Lembas is in part a linguistic joke related to the origin of the word lady as meaning giver of bread. In The peoples of Middle earth Tolkien explains the origen of lembas and why it was the gift ofhigh ranking elven women only.

As I have yet to get through all of HoMe, I didn't know this. Thanks for pointing it out.

On a side note the books forum is intended for relatively formal text based discussion. Speculation and a more relaxed style are better suited to novices and newcomers. Also should be remembered that there is a wide range of ages and cultural background here and slang should be used with caution.

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