The Tolkien Coming of Age Club 2 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Estelyn Telcontar · 01-01-2013, 04:06 PM

It's hard to say, Bb - we do have a few new members coming in, and certainly the members that have been around longer are discussing a lot on the movie forum. I guess the Hobbit movie just didn't fascinate me enough to compete with real life interests, so I'm not enjoying posting as much as I did 10 years ago.

I'll make some more tea - would you prefer green or Lady Grey?

Bêthberry · 01-01-2013, 07:36 PM

Well, since I haven't seen the movie yet, I am enjoying reading the comments. But we do seem to have a rash of rude posts lately. Imagine telling Legolas he didn't need to provide a long explanation!

Oh, and green would be lovely, ta.

Hilde, your cookies were just the kind of Christmas treat I like, crunchy on the outside, soft and chewy inside. I suspect Bilbo might have been rather fond of that kind too.

Snowdog · 01-02-2013, 03:49 AM

I saw the movie and said all I had to say about it in one small post at the end of Morothon's Extraneous journey thread.

Trying to get the house to cool down after a 33° C day. I'll have a cold beer thanks!

Hilde Bracegirdle · 01-02-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Hilde, your cookies were just the kind of Christmas treat I like, crunchy on the outside, soft and chewy inside.

Rather like some people I know!

I have decided not to see the movies in order to avoid the confusion. Goodness knows the LoTR movies had the unfortunate effect of eclipsing my own mental images. Not worth having it happen again.

Nogrod · 01-03-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hilde Bracegirdle

I have decided not to see the movies in order to avoid the confusion. Goodness knows the LoTR movies had the unfortunate effect of eclipsing my own mental images. Not worth having it happen again.

If that has happened already, you lose nothing by seeing it as the visual outlook of the Hobbit is more or less the same than with the LotR. The milk is spilled so you have nothing to save...

I myself belong to the club of those saying the LotR movies (and now the Hobbit) were and are a kind of an eye-candy - and as such quite great - but as telling of a story quite terrible (unlike the stories the prof. wrote decades ago which still can captivate peoples' imagination). The Hobbit -movie is a calculated project to the bone for maximum audiences (and thus Box Office cash-value), but that calculation also pays heed to Tolkien fans as we have a lot of nice little details from the book in there, only those knowing the book inside-out will appreciate.

But if you go to see it already with the presupposition that it is a Hollywood blockbuster movie meant to draw in teen audiences and offfering all sorts of cliffhangers for people who don't yet know the story - and then sit back and relax concentrating rather on how it looks (or which details you can spot from the original work), then you might even enjoy it.

Hilde Bracegirdle · 01-03-2013, 06:19 PM

Ah, but in my mind The Hobbit and LoTR are worlds apart and I don't want those worlds to collide! You have brought up some good points though. Perhaps I am just too old to contemplate a trip to the theater when I'm content to read at home by the fire. Really I'm not nearly as curious as I thought I'd be.

Nogrod · 01-03-2013, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hilde Bracegirdle

Ah, but in my mind The Hobbit and LoTR are worlds apart and I don't want those worlds to collide!

Well, that is a Pandora's box we're probably not going to open here... even if I kind of agree with what you say (and sadly see that problem in the new movie all too well).

If I had a fireplace I'd stick with it quite often...

Snowdog · 01-03-2013, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hilde Bracegirdle

I have decided not to see the movies in order to avoid the confusion. Goodness knows the LoTR movies had the unfortunate effect of eclipsing my own mental images. Not worth having it happen again.

A wise decision in my opinion. It's absolute rubbish. Don't spend 1¢ on this cash-grab travesty of a movie.

Rhod the Red · 01-04-2013, 09:04 AM

Absolutely rubbish? Are you sure there's nothing praiseworthy in it, for you?

Snowdog · 01-06-2013, 06:47 AM

I stated what was praiseworthy in a thread in the movie forum. I'll state it again here...

Hobbiton looked good and the party at Bilbo's was well done.
Rivendell looked better after the remodel and the tearing down of some of the gazebos.
Elrond looked better and the acting was more 'Elrondish'
Galadriel looked much better, more like Galadriel.
The whole 'Riddles In The Dark' bit was good. Andy nailed Gollum again!

That's about it. The screenplay, the overly padded story as written and portrayed, was absolute rubbish.

Bêthberry · 01-06-2013, 10:21 AM

*offers Rhod and Snowdog a beer from the cooler*

It's hot down your way, right now, so I thought you might prefer something other than Estelyn's tea. Help yourself to one of these old rocking chairs, Rhod.

Hilde, I haven't seen it yet, as a dratted winter cold slowed down our holiday festivities, but my children want to take me to see it, and then to have a "High Tea". To be honest, after hearing much about the movie, I suspect the High Tea will be the highlight of my gift. I am looking forward to hearing what my young 'uns have to say as Daughter loves The Hobbit but dislikes Lord of the Rings, whereas with Son it's the reverse.

Nogrod, what was it like seeing the movie with so many other Downers?

01-01-2013, 04:06 PM	#1
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	It's hard to say, Bb - we do have a few new members coming in, and certainly the members that have been around longer are discussing a lot on the movie forum. I guess the Hobbit movie just didn't fascinate me enough to compete with real life interests, so I'm not enjoying posting as much as I did 10 years ago. I'll make some more tea - would you prefer green or Lady Grey? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

01-01-2013, 07:36 PM	#2
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	Well, since I haven't seen the movie yet, I am enjoying reading the comments. But we do seem to have a rash of rude posts lately. Imagine telling Legolas he didn't need to provide a long explanation! Oh, and green would be lovely, ta. Hilde, your cookies were just the kind of Christmas treat I like, crunchy on the outside, soft and chewy inside. I suspect Bilbo might have been rather fond of that kind too. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

01-04-2013, 09:04 AM	#9
Rhod the Red Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 257	Absolutely rubbish? Are you sure there's nothing praiseworthy in it, for you? __________________ Head of the Fifth Order of the Istari Tenure: Fourth Age(Year 1) - Present Currently operating in Melbourne, Australia

01-06-2013, 06:47 AM	#10
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 647	I stated what was praiseworthy in a thread in the movie forum. I'll state it again here... Hobbiton looked good and the party at Bilbo's was well done. Rivendell looked better after the remodel and the tearing down of some of the gazebos. Elrond looked better and the acting was more 'Elrondish' Galadriel looked much better, more like Galadriel. The whole 'Riddles In The Dark' bit was good. Andy nailed Gollum again! That's about it. The screenplay, the overly padded story as written and portrayed, was absolute rubbish.

01-06-2013, 10:21 AM	#11
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	offers Rhod and Snowdog a beer from the cooler It's hot down your way, right now, so I thought you might prefer something other than Estelyn's tea. Help yourself to one of these old rocking chairs, Rhod. Hilde, I haven't seen it yet, as a dratted winter cold slowed down our holiday festivities, but my children want to take me to see it, and then to have a "High Tea". To be honest, after hearing much about the movie, I suspect the High Tea will be the highlight of my gift. I am looking forward to hearing what my young 'uns have to say as Daughter loves The Hobbit but dislikes Lord of the Rings, whereas with Son it's the reverse. Nogrod, what was it like seeing the movie with so many other Downers? __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

01-02-2013, 03:49 AM	#3
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 647	I saw the movie and said all I had to say about it in one small post at the end of Morothon's Extraneous journey thread. Trying to get the house to cool down after a 33° C day. I'll have a cold beer thanks!

01-03-2013, 06:19 PM	#6
Hilde Bracegirdle Relic of Wandering Days Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: You'll See Perpetual Change. Posts: 1,480	Ah, but in my mind The Hobbit and LoTR are worlds apart and I don't want those worlds to collide! You have brought up some good points though. Perhaps I am just too old to contemplate a trip to the theater when I'm content to read at home by the fire. Really I'm not nearly as curious as I thought I'd be.

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